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Old 08-14-2010, 06:03 PM  
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Say what you want about Cassel, but...
in all honesty, the OL reeks of complete sh*tness.

Most notably O'Callaghan and Niswanger. Those are the two guys that need a ticket out of here. Most definately without question or doubt.

So why not start Wiegman? What does this team have to lose? Why not start Richardson in the beginning of yesterdays game rather than late in the 4th which I thought was a boneheaded move by coach Haley.

I really don't know what this coaching staff sees in Niswanger and O'Callaghan? At the very least, this team should be starting the best players right now or the players that have more upside just to mask the level of sh*tiness that Niswanger and O'Callaghan display.

In the off-season they need to address this area badly. But I've once said this in seasons past and here I am saying it again, the OL is going to be a problem in the regular season. Oh well, it's just the same ole sh*t. nothing but a repetitive theme that gets frustrating.

And there shouldn't be any discussion about this potentially being a good offense or even compare this team to the 2002 Chiefs because the OL comparison is apples and oranges, and this offense is light years away from being as good.
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Old 08-14-2010, 06:18 PM   #16
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2007 Brady - 21 Sacks
2008 Cassel - 47 Sacks
2009 Brady - 16 Sacks

The line is nothing special, but there is a problem here

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Can't sell the truth here.

Homer doesn't want to buy.
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Old 08-14-2010, 06:19 PM   #17
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there is no OL excuse this year

pioli gave Cassel everything he (Pioli) thought he needed


Cassel is responsible for his play this year, and if you think he isn't then you have to indict Pioli for incompetence....
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Old 08-14-2010, 06:19 PM   #18
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I'd say that there are at least 40 better QBs right now, at the least.
Id bet Cassel finishes is the top 20, for shits and giggles, if you want to wager on it.
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Old 08-14-2010, 06:20 PM   #19
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What concerns me now is how long Haley and Co. are willing to go with him...
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Old 08-14-2010, 06:21 PM   #20
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Can't sell the truth here.

Homer doesn't want to buy.
It is true, he sufered more sacks than Brady - which is not uncommon or shocking because they blitz the shit out of untested players, and don't get burned like Brady would burn them...

But look at the rest of Cassel's numbers, they were solid...good actually. If the only number you can point to is sacks and try to make the case he 'sucked' in 2008, you are fail.

11 wins
21 Tds
11 picks
QB Rating in the upper 80's
63 or something % complettion

etc..

Solid season, look it up.
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Old 08-14-2010, 06:22 PM   #21
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What concerns me now is how long Haley and Co. are willing to go with him...
Well its been 1 season...How long would you say we should try and stick with him?

Me, I am willing to give him 8 more games for sure.

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Old 08-14-2010, 06:23 PM   #22
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Old 08-14-2010, 06:24 PM   #23
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Id bet Cassel finishes is the top 20, for shits and giggles, if you want to wager on it.
Top 20 what?

He's going to have a decent QB rating because he's Checkdown Cassel.

We'd have to find a common ground, because I'm not a stats guy.

I believe in the old saying their there are lies, damn lies, and stats.
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Old 08-14-2010, 06:25 PM   #24
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What concerns me now is how long Haley and Co. are willing to go with him...
I believe he'll probably start every game, but he'll get pulled when he starts ****ing up again.
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Old 08-14-2010, 06:25 PM   #25
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It is true, he sufered more sacks than Brady - which is not uncommon or shocking because they blitz the shit out of untested players, and don't get burned like Brady would burn them...

But look at the rest of Cassel's numbers, they were solid...good actually. If the only number you can point to is sacks and try to make the case he 'sucked' in 2008, you are fail.

11 wins
21 Tds
11 picks
QB Rating in the upper 80's
63 or something % complettion

etc..

Solid season, look it up.
Yep. Scott Mitchell had a solid season, too.
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Old 08-14-2010, 06:26 PM   #26
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You know what's interesting?

Haley always says he goes by what he "sees". Do you guys honestly believe he's "seeing" a winning performance and/or leadership out of Cassel?

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Old 08-14-2010, 06:28 PM   #27
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You know what's interesting?

Haley always says he goes by what he "sees". Do you guys honestly believe he's "seeing" a winning performance and/or leadership out of Cassel?

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contracts and draft compensation goes a long way to push the issue with blind hope.
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Old 08-14-2010, 06:29 PM   #28
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Top 20 what?

He's going to have a decent QB rating because he's Checkdown Cassel.

We'd have to find a common ground, because I'm not a stats guy.

I believe in the old saying their there are lies, damn lies, and stats.
you have a point, I am open to suggestions

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How bout top 20 in yards, TDs and QB rating? Also I will throw in that he must NOT be in the bottom 12 of INTS thrown.
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Old 08-14-2010, 06:30 PM   #29
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The fact that a number of reasonably smart fans are pining for Brodie Croyle tells us just exactly how much Cassel sucks.

For Christ's sake, Cassel makes a brittle, 0-9 lifetime starting QB look like a good alternative.
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The fact that a number of reasonably smart fans are pining for Brodie Croyle tells us just exactly how much Cassel sucks.
Nah. I don't agree with that logic, there is always 'a number' of fans who want to see X Y or Z with any team. It doesnt mean A B or C sucks.
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