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[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

I agree. I like Arenas

Arenas is like Flowers in this regard: When they get burnt, it doesn't look like they get burnt.

Carr was a whipping boy around here because when he got beat, he was out of position and it looked like he was getting smoked. Flowers, OTOH, would get beat when a bigger, faster guy would just flat take the ball away from him.

In the end, beat is beat. Flowers didn't get beat appreciably more often than Carr, but folks were harder on Carr because Flowers didn't look as bad in getting burned.

Arenas is the same way. He often looks like he's where he's supposed to be, but he's just a hair too slow or too small so the ball gets caught. He looks like he had 'decent coverage', but in the end his physical limitations are just too much for him to be very good (because he's nowhere near as skilled as Flowers).

It's why he doesn't look awful on tape, but PFF just destroys him and his catch rates are so poor.

Close doesn't count in this league. Beat is beat and Arenas gets beat as often as anyone in the game. If you can improve on him as your nickle you should, let alone as your starter. He's an easily replaceable player, IMO.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Arenas is like Flowers in this regard: When they get burnt, it doesn't look like they get burnt.

Carr was a whipping boy around here because when he got beat, he was out of position and it looked like he was getting smoked. Flowers, OTOH, would get beat when a bigger, faster guy would just flat take the ball away from him.

In the end, beat is beat. Flowers didn't get beat appreciably more often than Carr, but folks were harder on Carr because Flowers didn't look as bad in getting burned.

Arenas is the same way. He often looks like he's where he's supposed to be, but he's just a hair too slow or too small so the ball gets caught. He looks like he had 'decent coverage', but in the end his physical limitations are just too much for him to be very good (because he's nowhere near as skilled as Flowers).

It's why he doesn't look awful on tape, but PFF just destroys him and his catch rates are so poor.

Close doesn't count in this league. Beat is beat and Arenas gets beat as often as anyone in the game. If you can improve on him as your nickle you should, let alone as your starter. He's an easily replaceable player, IMO.

The especially maddening thing about the Pioli regime is that they didn't learn their ****ing lesson. They drafted the SAME CBs with the same lack of speed and physical talent.

Menzie is as slow as Arenas is as slow as Jalil Brown. They just come in different size packages. And coincidentally, we have asked them all to play a bit of nickel at some point in their careers as Chiefs. Menzie didn't get much of a chance, but he WAS drafted to be a physical bump-and-run slot corner in addition to playing backup safety.

[Sorter]

Originally Posted by SNR

The especially maddening thing about the ***** regime is that they didn't learn their ****ing lesson. They drafted the SAME CBs with the same lack of speed and physical talent.

Menzie is as slow as Arenas is as slow as Jalil Brown. They just come in different size packages. And coincidentally, we have asked them all to play a bit of nickel at some point in their careers as Chiefs. Menzie didn't get much of a chance, but he WAS drafted to be a physical bump-and-run slot corner in addition to playing backup safety.

Yup.

Seriously, was Pioli ****ing drunk when he started evaluating college players?

[O.city]

Originally Posted by Sorter

Yup.

Seriously, was ***** ****ing drunk when he started evaluating college players?

The fact that he even evaluated said college players was ****ing stupid.

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Arenas is like Flowers in this regard: When they get burnt, it doesn't look like they get burnt.

Carr was a whipping boy around here because when he got beat, he was out of position and it looked like he was getting smoked. Flowers, OTOH, would get beat when a bigger, faster guy would just flat take the ball away from him.

In the end, beat is beat. Flowers didn't get beat appreciably more often than Carr, but folks were harder on Carr because Flowers didn't look as bad in getting burned.

Arenas is the same way. He often looks like he's where he's supposed to be, but he's just a hair too slow or too small so the ball gets caught. He looks like he had 'decent coverage', but in the end his physical limitations are just too much for him to be very good (because he's nowhere near as skilled as Flowers).

It's why he doesn't look awful on tape, but PFF just destroys him and his catch rates are so poor.

Close doesn't count in this league. Beat is beat and Arenas gets beat as often as anyone in the game. If you can improve on him as your nickle you should, let alone as your starter. He's an easily replaceable player, IMO.

Excellent points because I always think man he is right there to make the play and sometimes he does other time he doesn't.