KC vs AZ Primer

Warrior5 · 10-03-2006, 06:37 AM

The Chiefs should win this game, but historically haven’t played well in AZ. The Chiefs utterly pwned SF, but shouldn’t look past the Cards to the impending tough trip to Pittsburgh. Some stats for your perusal…

KC Score O – 19 ppg (16) vs AZ Score D – 24 ppg (25)…wash due to AZ homefield
KC Rush O – 128 ypg (8) vs AZ Rush D – 145 ypg (27)... KC adv
KC Pass O – 172 ypg (29) vs AZ Pass D – 231 ypg (25)... AZ adv

AZ Score O – 17 ppg (23) vs KC Score D – 11 ppg (6)... KC adv
AZ Rush O – 70 ypg (31) vs KC Rush D – 118 ypg (20)... KC adv
AZ Pass O – 219 ypg (12) vs KC Pass D – 122 ypg (2)… KC adv

Turnovers:
AZ – 6 INTs & 5 fumbles in 4 games
KC – 1 INT & 4 fumbles in 3 games
KC adv

Homefield Advantage: CARDS

AZ Strengths (against 49ers, Seahawks, Eagles, & Falcons):
QB Leinart (1st start) – no stats
RB James – 272 yds, 3.1 ypc, 2 TDs
WR Fitzgerald – 316 yds, 1 TD
WR Boldin – 295 yds, 1 TD
WR Johnson – 145 yds, 1 TD
Okeafor a significant presence on the D-line

Cards last game: Falcons dominated Cards on both sides of the ball; Cards managed 10 points.

KC Strengths (against Bengals, Donks, & 49ers):
QB Huard – 481 yds, 71% comp., 3 TDs, O INTs
RB Johnson – 295 yds, 4.0 ypc, 2 TDs
DEs Allen & Hali, secondary and LBs

Chiefs last game: utter spank-fest against the hapless Niners.

Key AZ injuries: ?

Key KC injuries (besides Green): LT Turley (back) – Q.

CupidStunt · 10-03-2006, 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Warrior5

KC Score O – 19 ppg (16) vs AZ Score D – 24 ppg (25)…wash due to AZ homefield

Disagree. Advantage Chiefs.

We should score early and often against that defense.

Braincase · 10-03-2006, 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by lj4mvp

Disagree. Advantage Chiefs.

We should score early and often against that defense.

One would usually allow for a touchdown advantage due to home field. I agree with Warrior5's asessment.

We should win, but when trying to breakdown the tanglibles, it is wise to avoid terms like coulda, woulda and shoulda.

**Lzen** · 10-03-2006, 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Braincase

One would usually allow for a touchdown advantage due to home field. I agree with Warrior5's asessment.

We should win, but when trying to breakdown the tanglibles, it is wise to avoid terms like coulda, woulda and shoulda.

Vegas gives like 3 points for the home team. In the case of the Chiefs, it might be more like 7, but I doubt that works for the Cards.

**1ChiefsDan** · 10-03-2006, 08:19 AM

Oct. 8Kansas CityCaesersMGMStations1:05 p.m. at ArizonaFavoriteKCKCKCPoint spread-3-3-3Total40o/u40o/u40o/uTotal money line-110-110-110

Vegas isn't even giving the Cards the homefield advantage

jspchief · 10-03-2006, 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by denverdanchiefsfan

Oct. 8Kansas CityCaesersMGMStations1:05 p.m. at ArizonaFavoriteKCKCKCPoint spread-3-3-3Total40o/u40o/u40o/uTotal money line-110-110-110

Vegas isn't even giving the Cards the homefield advantage

pffft That whole "3 point homefield advantage" thing is kind of a crock anyway. Going by that rule, the Chiefs are 6 points better on a neutral site, 3 points better in Arizona, 9 points better in KC.

No way that line comes out at -9 if it's at Arrowhead.

siberian khatru · 10-03-2006, 07:05 AM

We need to dust off the Steve Bono bootleg play.

Rooster · 10-03-2006, 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by siberian khatru

We need to dust off the Steve Bono bootleg play.

Amen to that. Huard is wicked fast compared to Bono.

SCTrojan · 10-03-2006, 08:53 AM

I like our chances against a fairly bad offensive line and a QB making his first start.

As said previously, I think Law/Surtain against Boldin/Fitzgerald, if it comes down to that, is at least a push for us.

I'm obviously a Leinart fan, but I am putting aside that loyalty for this game.

Hog's Gone Fishin · 10-03-2006, 07:29 AM

Arizona Ranks 24th in offense
28th in defense

Kc Ranks 3rd in defense
20th in offense

**Rain Man** · 10-03-2006, 08:31 AM

The thing I like is that our defense matches up well against their offense. Their strength is in their wide receivers where we have (now) several strong cornerbacks. But to have time to throw, they need their tackles to hold off our defensive ends, which matches our strength against a weakness of theirs.

Warrior5 · 10-03-2006, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man

The thing I like is that our defense matches up well against their offense. Their strength is in their wide receivers where we have (now) several strong cornerbacks. But to have time to throw, they need their tackles to hold off our defensive ends, which matches our strength against a weakness of theirs.

Exactly. I think Denny Green will initially keep Leinart leashed a little bit, given the team's propensity for turnovers. Leinart's strength is his arm, and the Cards do have good receivers, but I like this match up against our Pass D. Our F4 must crush Leinart.

Another reason I chose KC Scoring O (16th) vs AZ Scoring D (25th) as a wash is the enclosed stadium; noise might affect Huard and the O-line. Hope the Chiefs have a big following in AZ (ala @ Miami last year).

jspchief · 10-03-2006, 08:56 AM

I think we can take the WRs out of the equation (if their gameplan for breaking Leinart in doesn't already do that).

I'm not particularly scared of being beaten by Edge, so I hope we put a lot of our resources into camping out in Leinhart's face. Don't give him to time to look for WRs.

Warrior5 · 10-03-2006, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by jspchief

I'm not particularly scared of being beaten by Edge, so I hope we put a lot of our resources into camping out in Leinhart's face. Don't give him to time to look for WRs.

Yep. Hope Tamba's Mama is going to this game too.

**Easy 6** · 10-03-2006, 09:24 AM

As long as we dont go down there with big heads, i dont see how we lose this. Stay angry, dont get cocky & keep Bold and Fitz in front of us.

10-03-2006, 06:37 AM	Topic Starter
Warrior5 Stram was Cav Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Chiefsplanet Casino cash: $9054010	KC vs AZ Primer The Chiefs should win this game, but historically haven’t played well in AZ. The Chiefs utterly pwned SF, but shouldn’t look past the Cards to the impending tough trip to Pittsburgh. Some stats for your perusal… KC Score O – 19 ppg (16) vs AZ Score D – 24 ppg (25)…wash due to AZ homefield KC Rush O – 128 ypg (8) vs AZ Rush D – 145 ypg (27)... KC adv KC Pass O – 172 ypg (29) vs AZ Pass D – 231 ypg (25)... AZ adv AZ Score O – 17 ppg (23) vs KC Score D – 11 ppg (6)... KC adv AZ Rush O – 70 ypg (31) vs KC Rush D – 118 ypg (20)... KC adv AZ Pass O – 219 ypg (12) vs KC Pass D – 122 ypg (2)… KC adv Turnovers: AZ – 6 INTs & 5 fumbles in 4 games KC – 1 INT & 4 fumbles in 3 games KC adv Homefield Advantage: CARDS AZ Strengths (against 49ers, Seahawks, Eagles, & Falcons): QB Leinart (1st start) – no stats RB James – 272 yds, 3.1 ypc, 2 TDs WR Fitzgerald – 316 yds, 1 TD WR Boldin – 295 yds, 1 TD WR Johnson – 145 yds, 1 TD Okeafor a significant presence on the D-line Cards last game: Falcons dominated Cards on both sides of the ball; Cards managed 10 points. KC Strengths (against Bengals, Donks, & 49ers): QB Huard – 481 yds, 71% comp., 3 TDs, O INTs RB Johnson – 295 yds, 4.0 ypc, 2 TDs DEs Allen & Hali, secondary and LBs Chiefs last game: utter spank-fest against the hapless Niners. Key AZ injuries: ? Key KC injuries (besides Green): LT Turley (back) – Q.
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jspchief BAMF Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Your Face Casino cash: $9998710	I think we can take the WRs out of the equation (if their gameplan for breaking Leinart in doesn't already do that). I'm not particularly scared of being beaten by Edge, so I hope we put a lot of our resources into camping out in Leinhart's face. Don't give him to time to look for WRs. __________________ Courage is not the absence of fear but rather the judgment that something is more important than fear. The brave may not live forever but the cautious do not live at all.
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