NFL Draft drafting Trent Richardson - Page 13

jlscorpio · 01-11-2012, 04:54 AM

just saw the 2nd different mock that has us taking T-Rich 2.0 w/our 1st pick. I'm not opposed to it since no all-world DT is available this year. Here's the write up from Foxsports:

11. Kansas City Chiefs*: Trent Richardson, RB, Alabama: The Chiefs lost Jamaal Charles in the second week of the 2011 NFL season, and the offense never rebounded. Charles should be back and healthy next season, but Richardson is the rare running back talent who can completely change an offense. The way this mock draft has unfolded, he’ll be slipping out of the Top 10 — something few scouts or experts expect. A different type of back from Charles, the two could work together to form a dynamic duo in the Kansas City backfield. Though Charles signed a five-year, $32 million extension in 2010, he’s not making the Adrian Peterson/Chris Johnson money you might expect. Richardson, a between-the-tackles grinder, is viewed as a much better pro prospect than his former teammate, Mark Ingram. In the rough-and-tumble AFC West, I love the thought of a Charles-Richardson platoon.

Contrarian · 01-11-2012, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Gonzo

Draft for need. Our running game is good enough. We can find a good backup) in the 3rd round or later.
Posted via Mobile Device

Uh no it's not.

milkman · 01-11-2012, 04:30 PM

The biggest problem I have with your argument in this thread, Parker, is that Trent Richardson is not going to affect this team's philosophy with regards to QB in any way.

They are going to continue to address the QB position exactly as they have for the last years, with retreads and rejects, regardless of whatever else they do.

This team is like a garage band with no lead singer.

Hey, they get to play in the garage.
They don't need to play on stage.

htismaqe · 01-11-2012, 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman

The biggest problem I have with your argument in this thread, Parker, is that Trent Richardson is not going to affect this team's philosophy with regards to QB in any way.

They are going to continue to address the QB position exactly as they have for the last years, with retreads and rejects, regardless of whatever else they do.

This team is like a garage band with no lead singer.

Hey, they get to play in the garage.
They don't need to play on stage.

In other words, you see the future as even MORE bleak than I do...

**TrebMaxx** · 01-11-2012, 06:14 PM

I watched some segment on the draft the other day and the panel started talking about using a 1st rounder on a RB saying that teams shouldn't and it waste the value of the pick. They said that you don't usually get enough time out of a running back due to the physical toll taken at the position. I found it interesting so I checked this seasons top five backs and where they were selected.

Maurice Jones-Drew 2006 / Round: 2 / Pick: 60
Ray Rice 2008 / Round: 2 / Pick: 55
Michael Turner 2004 / Round: 5 / Pick: 154
LeSean McCoy 2009 / Round: 2 / Pick: 53
Arian Foster Undrafted 2009

How about 3 of the 5 being selected in the 2nd round near the same picks. If I get time I want to check out the next 10 to see if that 2nd round figure keeps showing up.

Setsuna · 01-11-2012, 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suds79

Yep. Then he ran a 4.58 40.

That's for you Setsuna.

Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

**hometeam** · 01-11-2012, 08:55 PM

that mock draft is utter fail

jlscorpio · 01-11-2012, 10:51 PM

He would definitely fix our pathetic Red Zone offense that probably cost us 2+ games this year.

Hootie · 01-12-2012, 12:26 AM

Im all for Richardson in the 1st...newsflash!!!! We can draft for luxury, our team is stacked! (Minus QB) and we aren't getting griffin or luck so take Richardson and hide Orton with our dynamic duo at RB and let's win a god damn playoff game!!

**DaKCMan AP** · 01-12-2012, 06:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TrebMaxx

I watched some segment on the draft the other day and the panel started talking about using a 1st rounder on a RB saying that teams shouldn't and it waste the value of the pick. They said that you don't usually get enough time out of a running back due to the physical toll taken at the position. I found it interesting so I checked this seasons top five backs and where they were selected.

Maurice Jones-Drew 2006 / Round: 2 / Pick: 60
Ray Rice 2008 / Round: 2 / Pick: 55
Michael Turner 2004 / Round: 5 / Pick: 154
LeSean McCoy 2009 / Round: 2 / Pick: 53
Arian Foster Undrafted 2009

How about 3 of the 5 being selected in the 2nd round near the same picks. If I get time I want to check out the next 10 to see if that 2nd round figure keeps showing up.

This is true. As I posted earlier, there were 11 RBs drafted top-15 in the past 10 drafts. Every single one of them has either a) missed significant time due to injury, b) hasn't been good enough to supplant the starter, or c) has moved on from the team that drafted him.

CJ Spiller - 9th overall
Ryan Matthews - 12th overall
Knowshon Moreno - 12th overall
Darren McFadden - 4th overall
Jonathan Stewart - 13th overall
Adrian Peterson - 7th overall
Marshawn Lynch - 12th overall
Reggie Bush - 2nd overall
Ronnie Brown - 2nd overall
Cedric Benson - 4th overall
Cadillac Williams - 5th overall

Hootie · 01-12-2012, 06:54 AM

now post all the LT's that didn't work out or moved to RT

now post all the WR's that didn't work out

now post all the DL that didn't work out

RB's aren't immune to being busts...

Hootie · 01-12-2012, 06:55 AM

and I'd take 3 years of Adrian Peterson over 10 years of Glenn Dorsey

but that's just me...I think you can replace a Glenn Dorsey via fee agency (see Shaun Smith)..but Adrian Peterson's don't grow on trees...

you can find RB's anywhere, any time (Khalil Bell, Evan Royster)...but ones that have true playmaking ability (Peterson, Johnson, Charles, MJD)...are hard to find

**DaKCMan AP** · 01-12-2012, 06:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Short Leash Hootie

now post all the LT's that didn't work out or moved to RT

now post all the WR's that didn't work out

now post all the DL that didn't work out

RB's aren't immune to being busts...

No, but I bet if you look at all the other positions that were drafted top-15 not every single player would be scarred by injury, bust, or switching teams. I didn't just post the RBs that didn't work out. That's the complete list of top-15 RBs in the past 10 years and every single one of them has had issues.

Hootie · 01-12-2012, 07:02 AM

well RB's, since the Benson year, haven't gone high for a reason...no one is going to pay $40M to a RB, ever...

now that draft slotting is completely different, RB's will go high again. Believe it.

Hootie · 01-12-2012, 07:03 AM

you can take a Trent Richardson 3 overall now and not have to pay him $40M guaranteed.

Hootie · 01-12-2012, 07:03 AM

the new CBA is going to totally change the draft in terms of trading up, down, and taking players in specific spots early

01-11-2012, 04:54 AM
jlscorpio Veteran Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Rapid City, SD Casino cash: $10004900	drafting Trent Richardson just saw the 2nd different mock that has us taking T-Rich 2.0 w/our 1st pick. I'm not opposed to it since no all-world DT is available this year. Here's the write up from Foxsports: 11. Kansas City Chiefs*: Trent Richardson, RB, Alabama: The Chiefs lost Jamaal Charles in the second week of the 2011 NFL season, and the offense never rebounded. Charles should be back and healthy next season, but Richardson is the rare running back talent who can completely change an offense. The way this mock draft has unfolded, he’ll be slipping out of the Top 10 — something few scouts or experts expect. A different type of back from Charles, the two could work together to form a dynamic duo in the Kansas City backfield. Though Charles signed a five-year, $32 million extension in 2010, he’s not making the Adrian Peterson/Chris Johnson money you might expect. Richardson, a between-the-tackles grinder, is viewed as a much better pro prospect than his former teammate, Mark Ingram. In the rough-and-tumble AFC West, I love the thought of a Charles-Richardson platoon.
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01-11-2012, 04:30 PM	#182
milkman Dumbass! Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Leading the Marty bashing Casino cash: $10029395	The biggest problem I have with your argument in this thread, Parker, is that Trent Richardson is not going to affect this team's philosophy with regards to QB in any way. They are going to continue to address the QB position exactly as they have for the last years, with retreads and rejects, regardless of whatever else they do. This team is like a garage band with no lead singer. Hey, they get to play in the garage. They don't need to play on stage. __________________
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01-11-2012, 06:14 PM	#184
TrebMaxx Supporter Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Peoples Republic of CoMo Casino cash: $1237252	I watched some segment on the draft the other day and the panel started talking about using a 1st rounder on a RB saying that teams shouldn't and it waste the value of the pick. They said that you don't usually get enough time out of a running back due to the physical toll taken at the position. I found it interesting so I checked this seasons top five backs and where they were selected. Maurice Jones-Drew 2006 / Round: 2 / Pick: 60 Ray Rice 2008 / Round: 2 / Pick: 55 Michael Turner 2004 / Round: 5 / Pick: 154 LeSean McCoy 2009 / Round: 2 / Pick: 53 Arian Foster Undrafted 2009 How about 3 of the 5 being selected in the 2nd round near the same picks. If I get time I want to check out the next 10 to see if that 2nd round figure keeps showing up. __________________
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01-11-2012, 08:55 PM	#186
hometeam Supporter Join Date: Jul 2011 Casino cash: $3951956	that mock draft is utter fail
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01-11-2012, 10:51 PM	#187
jlscorpio Veteran Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Rapid City, SD Casino cash: $10004900	He would definitely fix our pathetic Red Zone offense that probably cost us 2+ games this year. __________________ For those who believe, no explanation is necessary; for those who don't believe, no explanation will do.
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01-12-2012, 12:26 AM	#188
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	Im all for Richardson in the 1st...newsflash!!!! We can draft for luxury, our team is stacked! (Minus QB) and we aren't getting griffin or luck so take Richardson and hide Orton with our dynamic duo at RB and let's win a god damn playoff game!!
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01-12-2012, 06:54 AM	#190
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	now post all the LT's that didn't work out or moved to RT now post all the WR's that didn't work out now post all the DL that didn't work out RB's aren't immune to being busts...
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01-12-2012, 06:55 AM	#191
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	and I'd take 3 years of Adrian Peterson over 10 years of Glenn Dorsey but that's just me...I think you can replace a Glenn Dorsey via fee agency (see Shaun Smith)..but Adrian Peterson's don't grow on trees... you can find RB's anywhere, any time (Khalil Bell, Evan Royster)...but ones that have true playmaking ability (Peterson, Johnson, Charles, MJD)...are hard to find
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01-12-2012, 07:02 AM	#193
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	well RB's, since the Benson year, haven't gone high for a reason...no one is going to pay $40M to a RB, ever... now that draft slotting is completely different, RB's will go high again. Believe it.
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01-12-2012, 07:03 AM	#194
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	you can take a Trent Richardson 3 overall now and not have to pay him $40M guaranteed.
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01-12-2012, 07:03 AM	#195
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	the new CBA is going to totally change the draft in terms of trading up, down, and taking players in specific spots early
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