Cardinals ***OFFICIAL*** 2013 STL Cardinals Thread - Page 154

**BigRedChief** · 08:16 PM

From Bernie's column:

People have asked me why we’re not more emotional,” Matheny said in his office after Sunday’s game. “They say that we look subdued, always intense. That our actions are methodical, robotic at times. That’s what got us here. This isn’t the time to change it.”

It’s hard to argue with the manager’s assessment. The Cardinals finished with 97 victories, most by a Cards team since 2005, and tied with Boston for No. 1 in the majors this year.

Their 54-27 showing at Busch Stadium matches the 1985 team for the best single-season home winning percentage (.667) by the Cardinals since 1944.

A postseason theme has emerged, and it echoes the mantra that surfaced before the start of 2013: remember the fall of 2012. Remember falling to San Francisco in the NLCS.

The Cardinals’ veterans still haven’t forgotten. They still aren’t over it. It’s why Matheny resists GM John Mozeliak’s urgings to smile and put on a happier face.

Here's the most impressive aspect of the Cardinals' division championship: they prevailed over two other outstanding teams, Pittsburgh and Cincinnati.

The 97-win Cardinals were better this year (regular season) than they were in 2011, when they won 90 games, and 2012, when they won 88.
Here are a few numbers that help put the Cardinals' Central title and No. 1 NL seed in perspective:

* Since MLB switched to a three-division format in each league in 1994, this was only the sixth time that a division had three 90-plus win teams. St. Louis won 97, Pittsburgh 94, and Cincinnati 90.
* Since the format change, this was only the second time that an NL division had three 90-win teams. In 2002 the NL West had Arizona (98 wins), San Francisco (95) and Los Angeles (92).
* The 2013 Cardinals faced more esteemed and difficult competition at the top of the division than any of the division-winning teams managed by Tony La Russa.

The Pirates were hardly pushovers; the Cardinals had to work like mad and kick in with a strong finish to put the division away, and didn't clinch until Game No. 160.

The Cardinals went 9-10 against Pittsburgh this season and were 11-8 vs. Cincinnati.

The Cardinals won only three of 10 games at PNC Park in Pittsburgh and split the 10 games at Cincinnati. The Cardinals were 6-3 against both teams at Busch Stadium.

The Cardinals (1st), Pirates (3rd) and Reds (5th) ranked among the top five in wins in the NL. The three teams were among the top 11 in wins in MLB. All three teams finished in the top five in the majors for best overall ERA, and each were in the top five MLB for best starting-pitching ERA.

The original purpose to this piece was to point out that the Cardinals managed to finish with the league's best record while competing in a division that had three 90-win teams for only the second time in the last 19 years of National League baseball.

The Cardinals really earned this.
Thanks for reading ...
— Bernie

**BigRedChief** · 06-22-2013, 07:27 PM

It's time to snap out of this funk.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 06-22-2013, 07:30 PM

Wainwright is just ****ing awesome.

**BigRedChief** · 06-22-2013, 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Wainwright is just ****ing awesome.

Looks like 4 runs in 4 innings. Is this sarcasm?

I'm getting the Boston game.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 06-22-2013, 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

Looks like 4 runs in 4 innings. Is this sarcasm?

I'm getting the Boston game.

Shelby is pitching. Wainwright was the dugout interview.

Just got hosed out a K that turned into a single. Hooray for awful umpiring.

Hootie · 06-22-2013, 08:34 PM

I tell you what...

I was in Dallas for that Rangers/Cardinals WS

hollllly ****ing shit

the place went silent when Cruz didn't catch that flyball

and then it went NUTS when Hamilton hit that HR

and then

...

I felt bad for them.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 06-22-2013, 08:35 PM

'Hamas' Jenkins · 06-22-2013, 08:37 PM

So sick of that ****er. I think that's 20 GIDPs for the year.

Just looked it up 19. He's on pace to set a ML record.

**BigRedChief** · 06-22-2013, 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

So sick of that ****er. I think that's 20 GIDPs for the year.

Just looked it up 19. He's on pace to set a ML record.

3 more years.

From COTS:

Matt Holliday lf
7 years/$120M (2010-16), plus 2017 option

7 years/$120M (2010-16), plus 2017 option
- re-signed by St. Louis as a free agent 1/10
- 10-16: $17M annually, 17:$17M club option ($1M buyout)
- club must exercise or decline option within 5 days of end of 2016 World Series
- 2017 option guaranteed with top 10 finish in 2016 MVP vote
- $2M annually deferred without interest, to be paid from 2020 to 2029 in annual installments of $1.4M or $1.6M, depending on whether the option vests or is exercised (present value of $113,580,723 per MLBPA)
- full no-trade clause
- award bonuses: $0.2M for MVP ($0.1M for 2nd in vote, $50,000 for 3rd); $0.15M for WS MVP; $0.1M for NLCS MVP; $50,000 each for NLDS MVP, All Star election, Gold Glove, Silver Slugger; $25,000 for All Star selection
- perks: suite on road

Hootie · 06-22-2013, 09:01 PM

suite on the road?! What a guy.

Pepe Silvia · 06-22-2013, 09:29 PM

We are officially in a rough patch.

Pepe Silvia · 06-23-2013, 04:10 PM

Need to salvage the series tonight, lets do it.

Jewish Rabbi · 06-23-2013, 10:21 PM

Kozma sucks so much.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 06-23-2013, 10:24 PM

I think I said it yesterday, but I'll Q myself: our 7&8 hitters are ****ing killing us the last week or so.

Special props to Holliday. Two balls put in play that have traveled a total distance of about 11 feet.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 06-23-2013, 10:40 PM

Meals has ****ed us all night. Started with Carpenter at the beginning of the game, calling overly high pitches strikes, continuing with bullshit calls in the Kozma AB and squeezing Waino in the 6th.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 06-23-2013, 10:42 PM

Wow. That call was ****ing horrific.

01-25-2013, 05:27 PM
BigRedChief Has a particular set of skills Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: On the water Casino cash: $3149627 VARSITY	*OFFICIAL* 2013 STL Cardinals Thread From Bernie's column: People have asked me why we’re not more emotional,” Matheny said in his office after Sunday’s game. “They say that we look subdued, always intense. That our actions are methodical, robotic at times. That’s what got us here. This isn’t the time to change it.” It’s hard to argue with the manager’s assessment. The Cardinals finished with 97 victories, most by a Cards team since 2005, and tied with Boston for No. 1 in the majors this year. Their 54-27 showing at Busch Stadium matches the 1985 team for the best single-season home winning percentage (.667) by the Cardinals since 1944. A postseason theme has emerged, and it echoes the mantra that surfaced before the start of 2013: remember the fall of 2012. Remember falling to San Francisco in the NLCS. The Cardinals’ veterans still haven’t forgotten. They still aren’t over it. It’s why Matheny resists GM John Mozeliak’s urgings to smile and put on a happier face. Here's the most impressive aspect of the Cardinals' division championship: they prevailed over two other outstanding teams, Pittsburgh and Cincinnati. The 97-win Cardinals were better this year (regular season) than they were in 2011, when they won 90 games, and 2012, when they won 88. Here are a few numbers that help put the Cardinals' Central title and No. 1 NL seed in perspective: * Since MLB switched to a three-division format in each league in 1994, this was only the sixth time that a division had three 90-plus win teams. St. Louis won 97, Pittsburgh 94, and Cincinnati 90. * Since the format change, this was only the second time that an NL division had three 90-win teams. In 2002 the NL West had Arizona (98 wins), San Francisco (95) and Los Angeles (92). * The 2013 Cardinals faced more esteemed and difficult competition at the top of the division than any of the division-winning teams managed by Tony La Russa. The Pirates were hardly pushovers; the Cardinals had to work like mad and kick in with a strong finish to put the division away, and didn't clinch until Game No. 160. The Cardinals went 9-10 against Pittsburgh this season and were 11-8 vs. Cincinnati. The Cardinals won only three of 10 games at PNC Park in Pittsburgh and split the 10 games at Cincinnati. The Cardinals were 6-3 against both teams at Busch Stadium. The Cardinals (1st), Pirates (3rd) and Reds (5th) ranked among the top five in wins in the NL. The three teams were among the top 11 in wins in MLB. All three teams finished in the top five in the majors for best overall ERA, and each were in the top five MLB for best starting-pitching ERA. The original purpose to this piece was to point out that the Cardinals managed to finish with the league's best record while competing in a division that had three 90-win teams for only the second time in the last 19 years of National League baseball. The Cardinals really earned this. Thanks for reading ... — Bernie Last edited by BigRedChief; 10-02-2013 at 08:16 PM..
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06-22-2013, 08:35 PM	#2301
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06-22-2013, 08:37 PM	#2302
'Hamas' Jenkins Now you've pissed me off! Join Date: Jan 2006 Casino cash: $8009572	So sick of that ****er. I think that's 20 GIDPs for the year. Just looked it up 19. He's on pace to set a ML record. __________________ "When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read 'all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and Catholics.' When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty – to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocrisy.”--Abraham Lincoln
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06-23-2013, 10:24 PM	#2308
'Hamas' Jenkins Now you've pissed me off! Join Date: Jan 2006 Casino cash: $8009572	I think I said it yesterday, but I'll Q myself: our 7&8 hitters are ****ing killing us the last week or so. Special props to Holliday. Two balls put in play that have traveled a total distance of about 11 feet. __________________ "When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read 'all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and Catholics.' When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty – to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocrisy.”--Abraham Lincoln
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06-23-2013, 10:40 PM	#2309
'Hamas' Jenkins Now you've pissed me off! Join Date: Jan 2006 Casino cash: $8009572	Meals has ****ed us all night. Started with Carpenter at the beginning of the game, calling overly high pitches strikes, continuing with bullshit calls in the Kozma AB and squeezing Waino in the 6th. __________________ "When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read 'all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and Catholics.' When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty – to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocrisy.”--Abraham Lincoln
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06-23-2013, 10:42 PM	#2310
'Hamas' Jenkins Now you've pissed me off! Join Date: Jan 2006 Casino cash: $8009572	Wow. That call was ****ing horrific. __________________ "When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read 'all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and Catholics.' When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty – to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocrisy.”--Abraham Lincoln
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