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[Bowser]

Originally Posted by B14ckmon

Definitely looks like it to me.

Not to me. Especially if they bring Lilja back.

[B14ckmon]

Originally Posted by Bowser

Not to me. Especially if they bring Lilja back.

Why would a backup guard's return make any difference whatsoever? He will be replacing Albert after he gets traded. Silly.

[Bowser]

Originally Posted by B14ckmon

Why would a backup guard's return make any difference whatsoever? He will be replacing Albert after he gets traded. Silly.

We discussed this in the other thread. All the moves they are making right now point to them not targeting Jockel/Fisher.

Obviously, Albert is the key. If they trade him, then a tackle will probably be the choice. But I haven't seen or heard of any team ready to pony up for him as of yet, have you?

[B14ckmon]

Originally Posted by Bowser

We discussed this in the other thread. All the moves they are making right now point to them not targeting Jockel/Fisher.

Obviously, Albert is the key. If they trade him, then a tackle will probably be the choice. But I haven't seen or heard of any team ready to pony up for him as of yet, have you?

Why would we hear about it? No team is going to make a trade until the week of the draft most likely.

And what move is showing you that they aren't targeting Joeckel or Fisher? You are being very dense right now lol

[penbrook]

Originally Posted by B14ckmon

Why would we hear about it? No team is going to make a trade until the week of the draft most likely.

And what move is showing you that they aren't targeting Joeckel or Fisher? You are being very dense right now lol

Surprisingly Blackmon Im gonna agree with you.

[Bowser]

Originally Posted by B14ckmon

Why would we hear about it? No team is going to make a trade until the week of the draft most likely.

And what move is showing you that they aren't targeting Joeckel or Fisher? You are being very dense right now lol

Well

- Franchise tagged Albert
- Brought in Schwartz
- Talking to Lilja about coming back

And that is with two guys in Stephenson and Allen that got significant playing time last year.

Like I said, it all hinges on Albert. If he gets traded, then Joeckel/Fisher is likely the pick. If not, then they won't be. As it stands this second, we are well stocked on the offensive line and do not need to take a tackle 1.1, hince me saying it doesn't look like they're going to take Joeckel/Fisher.

[penbrook]

Originally Posted by Bowser

Well

- Franchise tagged Albert
- Brought in Schwartz
- Talking to Lilja about coming back

And that is with two guys in Stephenson and Allen that got significant playing time last year.

Like I said, it all hinges on Albert. If he gets traded, then Joeckel/Fisher is likely the pick. If not, then they won't be. As it stands this second, we are well stocked on the offensive line and do not need to take a tackle 1.1, hince me saying it doesn't look like they're going to take Joeckel/Fisher.

If Albert stays its Geno
If he goes its a OT

[Bowser]

Originally Posted by penbook

If Albert stays its Geno
If he goes its a OT

That's pretty much where I'm at with the whole thing.

[Coogs]

Originally Posted by penbook

If Albert stays its Geno
If he goes its a OT

Not singling you out, because many others say the same thing. I just don't think the #1 overall pick hinges on the Albert decision/outcome. Dorsey said they will take the guy that "wows" them. I think he will stick to that philosophy... and not sway to a "need" decision.

Now, I just hope Geno is the guy that makes them say "this is the guy".

[B14ckmon]

Originally Posted by Bowser

Well

- Franchise tagged Albert
- Brought in Schwartz
- Talking to Lilja about coming back

And that is with two guys in Stephenson and Allen that got significant playing time last year.

Like I said, it all hinges on Albert. If he gets traded, then Joeckel/Fisher is likely the pick. If not, then they won't be. As it stands this second, we are well stocked on the offensive line and do not need to take a tackle 1.1, hince me saying it doesn't look like they're going to take Joeckel/Fisher.

-If you want to get something out of Albert, you HAVE to franchise tag him or else he was a FA.

-Schwartz won't change anything.

-Once again, what does a backup guard have to do with drafting a left tackle? At all?

Jaguars aren't taking a tackle. No one actually things the Jaguars would take a tackle. You need to move past it like the nfl.com mockers have after they realized how dumb it was to mock a LT to the Jaguars.

[penbrook]

Originally Posted by B14ckmon

-If you want to get something out of Albert, you HAVE to franchise tag him or else he was a FA.

-Schwartz won't change anything.

-Once again, what does a backup guard have to do with drafting a left tackle? At all?

Jaguars aren't taking a tackle. No one actually things the Jaguars would take a tackle. You need to move past it like the nfl.com mockers have after they realized how dumb it was to mock a LT to the Jaguars.

I think the Jags will draft Jordan.

[Bowser]

Originally Posted by B14ckmon

-If you want to get something out of Albert, you HAVE to franchise tag him or else he was a FA.

-Schwartz won't change anything.

-Once again, what does a backup guard have to do with drafting a left tackle? At all?

We're not drafting a tackle if we keep Albert. How many times do I need to say this for you to get it?

And Schwartz can take over at right tackle and have a better year than Winston did last year. I feel really comfortable saying that. He's split time between tackle and guard, playing probably 65/35 at guard, but Winston was just so bad last year that Jeff Allen might have been as good if not better there.

[penbrook]

Originally Posted by Bowser

Not to me. Especially if they bring Lilja back.

Lilga is a guard not a tackle.