Football McDaniels ripped for dumping Peyton Hillis - Page 2

Hammock Parties · 10-05-2010, 09:14 AM

Enjoyable, schadenfreude-filled read

http://www.denverpost.com/sports/ci_16254422.

Kiszla: Broncos fans pine for Hillis

By Mark Kiszla
The Denver Post
Posted: 10/05/2010 01:00:00 AM MDT

At the risk of angering coach Josh McDaniels and offending families with small children, we dare to print the two dirtiest words in the Broncos' language:

Peyton Hillis.

So far in 2010, Hillis has gained 322 yards rushing for the Cleveland Browns and deducted 50 points from McDaniels' IQ.

Like Bigfoot, the 240-pound Hillis and his myth grow larger by the hour. Run, Peyton, run. He is the first good reason during the entire recorded history of man that Colorado has ever been envious of Ohio. We would gladly trade Longs Peak for Hillis, even up. Deal?

Most fair-minded Broncomaniacs admit McDaniels might have been correct for trading away Jay Cutler, don't miss Brandon Marshall as much as originally thought and now have trouble remembering what jersey number Alphonso Smith wore during his brief stint in Denver.

The sin of dumping Hillis, how- ever, is unforgivable.

In Cleveland, the peeps have made a folk hero of Hillis, breathlessly mentioning him in the same sentence as tough guys Larry Csonka, Earl Campbell and Chuck Norris. Since joining the Browns, Hillis has buckled his chin strap and run to infinity. Twice.

On a daily basis, when scanning my overflowing inbox for e-mail, two subjects are by far the most prevalent:

1) A generous stranger from a foreign land wants to give me $15 million (in U.S. dollars) and all he requires to process the transaction is access to my bank account.

2) A raging Broncomaniac demands to know if state law would allow a judge to declare McDaniels legally insane for letting Hillis go to the Browns.

Hate to break this to Broncomaniacs, but Hillis is already you. Feeling very much at home in a state that is more blue collar than blue skies, Hillis has told my friend Michael Arace of The Columbus Dispatch newspaper, "When I think of Cleveland, I think of me."

Funny, McDaniels rarely thought of Hillis at all. A year ago, Hillis got 13 carries for 54 yards. In Cleveland's victory against Cincinnati on Sunday, Hillis ran 27 times for 102 yards.

Through four games of this young season, Hillis is the NFL's eighth-ranked rusher for a weak Cleveland team. Knowshon Moreno, who leads the Denver ground game, ranks No. 42.

Of course, it's not all bad news for the Broncos' offense. Denver quarterback Kyle Orton leads the league in passing yardage. Teammate Brandon Lloyd awoke Monday morning trailing only Indianapolis star Reggie Wayne in receiving yardage.

So it appears that contrary to detractors who stubbornly believe McDaniels doesn't know how to draft or dress, the new Broncos coach does know more than a little about how to effectively throw the football.

But for a kid who grew up down the street from the Pro Football Hall of Fame, McDaniels acts as if he fell asleep the day his third-grade class memorized Vince Lombardi's speech on the power sweep. Run to daylight? The Broncos' running attack has fallen in a black hole.

Every time Orton turns and hands the pigskin to Laurence Maroney, there's such a stinking mess of humanity at the line of scrimmage it's an orgy of football incompetence.

"We are complicating the issue right now in the running game," McDaniels said. "I think we have to start to trust that the play is going to be blocked properly and then the runner has to find green grass. We have to eliminate the (defensive) penetration and start stringing together some plays that move the ball and keep the pressure off the passing game."

Dare I say Hillis has surpassed Tim Tebow as the most popular NFL athlete who doesn't play for the Broncos? Would it be foolish to predict at the next home game in Denver there will be season-ticket holders donning Hillis replica jerseys?

With election day in Colorado only four weeks away, gubernatorial candidates John Hickenlooper, Tom Tancredo and Dan Maes had better be glad of one thing.

Hillis isn't on the ballot.

Mile High Mania · 10-05-2010, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by orange

Maybe it was that in two years/80 carries, Hillis' longest run was 19 yards? (p.s. shhhh, but Shanahan didn't see him as anything but a backup, either).

The deification of PH now that he's gone is absurd. But really misses the point - WHY ISN'T LADAINIAN TOMLINSON A BRONCO? Or a Chief, for that matter? And how can so many teams have missed on Arian Foster so many times?

...

p.p.s. Through his first two starts this year, he amassed a whopping 76 yards and a long of 12- WELL under Knowshon's two game output. Amazing what one good week will do for you.

You haven't looked at his stats have you?

I'm not suggesting that Hillis was the RBoTF for Denver, but he's definitely a guy that gave McD options... and he just couldn't figure out how to use him.

And, yes - Denver has OL issues, but to suggest that he couldn't be playing a strong role right now is insane.

Hillis has a TD in every game so far and in the last two games, he was given the ball more than 20 times each game (compared to 9 and 8 in the first 2 weeks) and he's topped 100 yds in both games.

The guy can play... it's just sad to see him producing for the Browns and not for the Broncos. I've been a Hillis fan since his college days.

Moreno was getting 15 and 24 carries in his first two games and never did better than 60 yards... in the long run, Moreno should be the better player and likely will be.

I would just liked to have seen Hillis in the mix more last year and definitely this year.

**Gadzooks** · 10-05-2010, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724

I liked Hillis a lot but he wouldn't have made our ground game any better. We can't run block. It doesn't matter who is back there.

Hillis can run block...

Mile High Mania · 10-05-2010, 11:13 AM

Burger Bill is in on this one as well...

http://espn.go.com/blog/afcwest/post...s-in-cleveland

suds79 · 10-05-2010, 11:13 AM

Not trying to hate but when these power backs come along, seems like they're a 2 year at max flash in the pan. Then they're done.

See Brandon Jacobs, Larry Johnson.

Power backs just take an unbelievable beating.

milkman · 10-05-2010, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724

I liked Hillis a lot but he wouldn't have made our ground game any better. We can't run block. It doesn't matter who is back there.

Wait.

Weren't you the guy that was telling us all how awsome that O-Line is?

Mile High Mania · 10-05-2010, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman

Wait.

Weren't you the guy that was telling us all how awsome that O-Line is?

Wait for it... injuries, youth, rookies, etc. All are true by the way, but they're still in great need of improvement this season.

Quesadilla Joe · 10-05-2010, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman

Wait.

Weren't you the guy that was telling us all how awsome that O-Line is?

No. I think Ryan Clady and Ryan Harris are the best players in the NFL at their positions but our interior line wasn't very good last year or this year.

milkman · 10-05-2010, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by suds79

Not trying to hate but when these power backs come along, seems like they're a 2 year at max flash in the pan. Then they're done.

See Brandon Jacobs, Larry Johnson.

Power backs just take an unbelievable beating.

RBs, regardless of style, generally have a short shelf life.

Guys like Tomlinson, Curtis Martin, Barry Sanders, Emmiff, etc are exceptions.

BigChiefFan · 10-05-2010, 11:18 AM

I'm surprised they let him go, as well. He's a talented player.

milkman · 10-05-2010, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724

No. I think Ryan Clady and Ryan Harris are the best players in the NFL at their positions but our interior line wasn't very good last year or this year.

Clady had a good roookie season in a system he was built for.

He ain't all that good in McDumbass' system.

He's giving up sacks like Jordan Black since his rookie season.

Quesadilla Joe · 10-05-2010, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman

Clady had a good roookie season in a system he was built for.

He ain't all that good in McDumbass' system.

He's giving up sacks like Jordan Black since his rookie season.

He was a First Team All Pro last year and he completely dominated Dwight Freeney one on one last week. Daniel Jeremiah said after last season that Clady was the best LT he has seen since Walter Jones.

Nero's Neptune · 10-05-2010, 11:25 AM

Once again, an out-of-town article highlights what we all know..... the local writers for the KC Stare are terrible.

This article hits on a relevant topic, is clever and light hearted... and shows the guy knows a thing or two about Colorado, etc.... well written, IMO.

Compare this article to the crap we get about the Chiefs.... not even close.

milkman · 10-05-2010, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724

He was a First Team All Pro last year and he completely dominated Dwight Freeney one on one last week. Daniel Jeremiah said after last season that Clady was the best LT he has seen since Walter Jones.

Post season cock sucking means little to me.

Freeney, while a great pass rusher, is a guy with Clady's athletic ability should be able to nuetralize.

Guys who combine a little more power with speed are guys that Clady struggles with.

Clady isn't a great run blocker in McDumbass' system, and his pass blocking isn't nearly as good as it's made out to be when teams can just line up and tee off on the QB.

Amnorix · 10-05-2010, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

I'm comparing him to Kevin Faulk directly, but look at how NE has used Faulk in that offense in the past - Hillis could have been that guy (and more) in Denver. But, we had to throw him in for the Quinn deal... and we all knew that was something worth targeting.

Wait...what? Hillis is a 240 pound power back, right? Faulk is a 200 pound (at best?) little scatback guy. A poor man's Michael Westbrook.

**Bowser** · 10-05-2010, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Amnorix

Wait...what? Hillis is a 240 pound power back, right? Faulk is a 200 pound (at best?) little scatback guy. A poor man's Michael Westbrook.

(Brian Westbrook)

10-05-2010, 09:14 AM
Hammock Parties I'll be back. Join Date: Nov 2002 Casino cash: $4720478	McDaniels ripped for dumping Peyton Hillis Enjoyable, schadenfreude-filled read http://www.denverpost.com/sports/ci_16254422. Kiszla: Broncos fans pine for Hillis By Mark Kiszla The Denver Post Posted: 10/05/2010 01:00:00 AM MDT At the risk of angering coach Josh McDaniels and offending families with small children, we dare to print the two dirtiest words in the Broncos' language: Peyton Hillis. So far in 2010, Hillis has gained 322 yards rushing for the Cleveland Browns and deducted 50 points from McDaniels' IQ. Like Bigfoot, the 240-pound Hillis and his myth grow larger by the hour. Run, Peyton, run. He is the first good reason during the entire recorded history of man that Colorado has ever been envious of Ohio. We would gladly trade Longs Peak for Hillis, even up. Deal? Most fair-minded Broncomaniacs admit McDaniels might have been correct for trading away Jay Cutler, don't miss Brandon Marshall as much as originally thought and now have trouble remembering what jersey number Alphonso Smith wore during his brief stint in Denver. The sin of dumping Hillis, how- ever, is unforgivable. In Cleveland, the peeps have made a folk hero of Hillis, breathlessly mentioning him in the same sentence as tough guys Larry Csonka, Earl Campbell and Chuck Norris. Since joining the Browns, Hillis has buckled his chin strap and run to infinity. Twice. On a daily basis, when scanning my overflowing inbox for e-mail, two subjects are by far the most prevalent: 1) A generous stranger from a foreign land wants to give me $15 million (in U.S. dollars) and all he requires to process the transaction is access to my bank account. 2) A raging Broncomaniac demands to know if state law would allow a judge to declare McDaniels legally insane for letting Hillis go to the Browns. Hate to break this to Broncomaniacs, but Hillis is already you. Feeling very much at home in a state that is more blue collar than blue skies, Hillis has told my friend Michael Arace of The Columbus Dispatch newspaper, "When I think of Cleveland, I think of me." Funny, McDaniels rarely thought of Hillis at all. A year ago, Hillis got 13 carries for 54 yards. In Cleveland's victory against Cincinnati on Sunday, Hillis ran 27 times for 102 yards. Through four games of this young season, Hillis is the NFL's eighth-ranked rusher for a weak Cleveland team. Knowshon Moreno, who leads the Denver ground game, ranks No. 42. Of course, it's not all bad news for the Broncos' offense. Denver quarterback Kyle Orton leads the league in passing yardage. Teammate Brandon Lloyd awoke Monday morning trailing only Indianapolis star Reggie Wayne in receiving yardage. So it appears that contrary to detractors who stubbornly believe McDaniels doesn't know how to draft or dress, the new Broncos coach does know more than a little about how to effectively throw the football. But for a kid who grew up down the street from the Pro Football Hall of Fame, McDaniels acts as if he fell asleep the day his third-grade class memorized Vince Lombardi's speech on the power sweep. Run to daylight? The Broncos' running attack has fallen in a black hole. Every time Orton turns and hands the pigskin to Laurence Maroney, there's such a stinking mess of humanity at the line of scrimmage it's an orgy of football incompetence. "We are complicating the issue right now in the running game," McDaniels said. "I think we have to start to trust that the play is going to be blocked properly and then the runner has to find green grass. We have to eliminate the (defensive) penetration and start stringing together some plays that move the ball and keep the pressure off the passing game." Dare I say Hillis has surpassed Tim Tebow as the most popular NFL athlete who doesn't play for the Broncos? Would it be foolish to predict at the next home game in Denver there will be season-ticket holders donning Hillis replica jerseys? With election day in Colorado only four weeks away, gubernatorial candidates John Hickenlooper, Tom Tancredo and Dan Maes had better be glad of one thing. Hillis isn't on the ballot.
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Nero's Neptune Starter Join Date: Oct 2008 Casino cash: $10004900	Once again, an out-of-town article highlights what we all know..... the local writers for the KC Stare are terrible. This article hits on a relevant topic, is clever and light hearted... and shows the guy knows a thing or two about Colorado, etc.... well written, IMO. Compare this article to the crap we get about the Chiefs.... not even close.
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