Croyle better have a good game in Miami

[Wile_E_Coyote]

...because I see nothing

[ChiefsCountry]

I just got home from the game some of these comments are pretty freaking stupid IMO. I have upper deck seats so I have a pretty view of the routes and as former WR I know what they are doing. Cardinals were covering the deep ball, they gave the Chiefs the dump off which Croyle hit tonight. To me it looked like a lot of the problem was the running backs and receivers werent going to the chains. But heck they moved the ball tonight, just couldnt get into the end zone.

[FAX]

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

I just got home from the game some of these comments are pretty freaking stupid IMO. I have upper deck seats so I have a pretty view of the routes and as former WR I know what they are doing. Cardinals were covering the deep ball, they gave the Chiefs the dump off which Croyle hit tonight. To me it looked like a lot of the problem was the running backs and receivers werent going to the chains. But heck they moved the ball tonight, just couldnt get into the end zone.

Hmmm.

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[Smed1065]

Red zone looked like last year to me. That is an area of work.

[FAX]

Originally Posted by Smed1065

Red zone looked like last year to me. That is an area of work.

I didn't see tonight's game, but I agree that we need a couple of "money" plays to use inside the 20, Mr. Smed1065. One has the feeling that the offense loses confidence down there (assuming they have any to start with, of course).

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[ChiefsCountry]

Originally Posted by Smed1065

Red zone looked like last year to me. That is an area of work.

Fade route to the corner was open all tonight but they didnt run it. Thats Bowe's money play.

[J Diddy]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Ok that's great I was just sayin it took a change in the philosophy for that team to get over the top because Dungy's wasn't working.

but yet dungy won a superbowl

[Quesadilla Joe]

Originally Posted by tk13

If Croyle doesn't go 14-15 next week, at least 250 yards and 3 TD's, I say it's time we scrap this team and start to rebuild.

That sounds like Jay Cutler tonight vs the cowboys

[Smed1065]

Originally Posted by cutler7624

That sounds like Jay Cutler tonight vs the cowboys

In your mind?

Sorry, you do not have one.

16 of 20 is good.

178 is almost 250 if you count a 1/3 discount (30 % discount)

1 TD equals 3 in the thin air.

Guess that is great cause if you get in the top 70% this year, you can say you won it all.

[Quesadilla Joe]

Originally Posted by Smed1065

In your mind?

Sorry, you do not have one.

16 of 20 is good.

178 is almost 250 if you count a 1/3 discount (30 % discount)

1 TD equals 3 in the thin air.

Guess that is great cause if you get in the top 70% this year, you can say you won it all.

Do you think Croyle will even throw for 178 yards (in all 4 games combined) this preseason?

[Crashride]

Croyle is gonna be fine guys, we got Willie Roaf remember?

[KCJohnny]

Originally Posted by keg in kc

I'm guessing what we hope (and by 'we' i mean the team) is that he becomes Elvis Grbac or Steve DeBerg. They're not looking for Brett Favre (nor do they want a player like that). They don't want a superstar, they want a game manager that won't necessarily win a game, but won't lose one either. And that's what he's been so far this preseason, 55-60% passing, no picks, and shown that the offense can move the chains at times.

The diff being that DeBerg (well into a long career when he arrived here) and Grbac were able to carry the team on their backs when the situation demanded it.

When the Chiefs lost their #1 and #2 TBs in 2000, Grbac raised a mediocre passing O that had almost no run support to #5 in the NFL. As a very young player, he once threw for 383 yds for SF in relief of an injured Steve Young.

The fact is we have not seen anything in Croyle that suggests he could load the team on his shoulders and will them to a victory yet. The closest thing was the performance at Indy last year almost pulling the upset. Yet even in that game he did not throw for 200 yds.

This team will have a daunting rushing attack this year. However, as we have seen before, if there is no credible threat for the passing game to go over the top of crowded lines of scrimmage, our run game will be stuffed as teams dare us to beat them with play-action.

The other side of that coin is a legit #2 receiver who can take pressure off Bowe and spread the field. Darling has not been that guy (yet) and of all the young receivers I like Maurice Price the best - hands, speed, routes, blocking, attitude - all above average and he's very, very young. The legitimate threat of a WR who can run the fade, post and flag routes (especially on an audible/check-with-me) will be the difference between another season 14 ppg or an arena-football-league like 24+ ppg.

Once the season is in the tank (by Halloween), there may be a lot of drama in KC about the QB position. For my money, this team could win 7-9 games with Huard under center, which barring injuries to the first 2 QBs on the depth chart is not going to happen.

5-11 with a possible QB acquistion for 2009.

[CupidStunt]

Originally Posted by cutler7624

Do you think Croyle will even throw for 178 yards (in all 4 games combined) this preseason?

Who cares? Do you think your entire DT rotation will cause as much havoc as Glenn Dorsey did in three snaps?

[PastorMikH]

Originally Posted by Mecca

That's a mixture.....you have to know when it's time to move on aswell. You don't wanna be here 4 years later going "well Brodie Croyle needs more time"

THE GUY HAS 6 STARTS! Also, going into his 3rd year he's already having to learn a second offensive system. He has 1 dependable veteran to throw to who isn't even a reciever, a poor line, and in those 6 starts was handing off to a rookie RB.


With the mentality people are showing about wanting to dump him now, had Petyton Manning, Troy Aikman, John Elway, and so on played here the way they did their first year or two, they would have been busts too.

Tom Bradys and Kurt Warners are very rare, QBs just don't step out on the field and play at a probowl level from the start.

[Wile_E_Coyote]

Originally Posted by PastorMikH

THE GUY HAS 6 STARTS! Also, going into his 3rd year he's already having to learn a second offensive system. He has 1 dependable veteran to throw to who isn't even a reciever, a poor line, and in those 6 starts was handing off to a rookie RB.


With the mentality people are showing about wanting to dump him now, had Petyton Manning, Troy Aikman, John Elway, and so on played here the way they did their first year or two, they would have been busts too.

Tom Bradys and Kurt Warners are very rare, QBs just don't step out on the field and play at a probowl level from the start.

Who has said anything about dumping him? I've just seen concern over nothing but a Dilfer with a Pennington injury history

[boogblaster]

Croyle will get better .. the team will too ... believe ....