Chiefs Croyle better have a good game in Miami - Page 12

Wile_E_Coyote · 07:30 PM

...because I see nothing

OctoberFart · 08-17-2008, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Claythan

Compared to last year's preseason he looks like a ****ing Pro Bowler.

Get a clue. It's preseason.

It was your stupid camp reports from last year that said he was looking great and was CLEARLY the better QB of all on the roster. That just proved you have no idea what your looking at when watching football.

**007** · 08-17-2008, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

I'm calling it now.

The W/L thing will end up being one of the great double standards of the season.

People are on Croyle's back now, because he's never won a game.

I guarantee, that when the wins DO start coming, these same people will say that the team is winning IN SPITE of Croyle.

Croyle is in a lose-lose situation with some people - and it's painfully obvious that the majority of this fanbase doesn't have the patience to develop a young QB.

Imagine if we had a career QB here like Elway or Favre before Croyle was brought in. I know, bad comparison heh, but still....

**OnTheWarpath15** · 08-17-2008, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Guru

Imagine if we had a career QB here like Elway or Favre before Croyle was brought in. I know, bad comparison heh, but still....

Honestly, there really is no bad comparison, IMO.

It doesn't matter WHO would have been our QB - Elway, Aikman, Favre, etc. - this fanbase would have run them out of town before they had a chance to grow into the position.

Christ, people here STILL bitch about Favre throwing INT's, and he's a first ballot lock HOFer who didn't even ****ing play here.

People would rather look for the negative instead of the positive.

Speaking of positive: Not a single turnover from Croyle this preseason.

But hey, he overthrew a couple of receivers. Burn him at the stake...

kstater · 08-17-2008, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Speaking of positive: Not a single turnover from Croyle this preseason.

But hey, he overthrew a couple of receivers. Burn him at the stake...

Honestly, I'm thrilled to watch a QB that's capable of overthrowing a receiver.

Coach · 08-17-2008, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by kstater

Honestly, I'm thrilled to watch a QB that's capable of overthrowing a receiver.

Sure as hell looks better than Fetal Position underthrowing.

milkman · 08-17-2008, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

Eli didn't have the benefit of holding a clipboard one year while learning the speed of the pro game. Croyle should be ahead of him on the learning curve.

If everyone wants to hold Croyle to the Eli standard then fine, he should play in all 16 games this year and finish with 3,700+ yards, 24 TD's, 17 INTs and a 6.8 yard average.

And a 52.8% completion rate with a 75.9 QB rating.

redbrian · 08-17-2008, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Wile_E_Coyote

How many series has he had? How many has he made a difference? The running game saved his bacon tonight. I am not impressed

How many real games has he played this year.....squat.........how much do you know about football....squat....

**Bearcat** · 08-17-2008, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

Eli didn't have the benefit of holding a clipboard one year while learning the speed of the pro game. Croyle should be ahead of him on the learning curve.

If everyone wants to hold Croyle to the Eli standard then fine, he should play in all 16 games this year and finish with 3,700+ yards, 24 TD's, 17 INTs and a 6.8 yard average.

And Manning lead an 11-5 team to a wild card loss, 23-0, with 113 yards passing and 3 INTs. I wonder how that would go over here... Tiki Barber ran for 1800 yards that year, too, and Eli was throwing to Plaxico Burress, Jeremy Shockey, and Amani Toomer.

The year before, Eli had the same weapons, Barber ran for 1500 yards, yet his stats are comparable to Croyle, who had fewer weapons and whose leading rusher during his starts had 407 yards. Eli had a better team around him, yet didn't produce any more than Croyle... maybe that's the benefit of holding a clipboard for a year, eh?

Cards Fan 4 Chiefs · 08-17-2008, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Honestly, there really is no bad comparison, IMO.

It doesn't matter WHO would have been our QB - Elway, Aikman, Favre, etc. - this fanbase would have run them out of town before they had a chance to grow into the position.

Christ, people here STILL bitch about Favre throwing INT's, and he's a first ballot lock HOFer who didn't even ****ing play here.

People would rather look for the negative instead of the positive.

Speaking of positive: Not a single turnover from Croyle this preseason.

But hey, he overthrew a couple of receivers. Burn him at the stake...

It's too bad you never took my offer. I would have paid for your Chiefs season tickets this year for a night with your wife.

**007** · 08-17-2008, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by kstater

Honestly, I'm thrilled to watch a QB that's capable of overthrowing a receiver.

QFT

TEX · 08-17-2008, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by AutumnWind

It was your stupid camp reports from last year that said he was looking great and was CLEARLY the better QB of all on the roster. That just proved you have no idea what your looking at when watching football.

You're so right. I forgot all about that.

He's so full of $hit that I'm agreeing with Raider Fan...

**RealSNR** · 08-17-2008, 01:09 PM

Croyle lost all six games as a starter. He's terrible.

Barry Sanders went through many, many shitty years in Detroit as the starting RB. He must be terrible.

Jesus, people. Football is a TEAM sport, assholes. Having great players is nice, but for every Peyton Manning and Tom Brady that wins the Super Bowl, you get a Trent Dilfer, Brad Johnson, or an Eli Manning. And I refuse to buy the bullshit that just because the QB is the most important position on the offense, a QB that loses games is a terrible QB.

How about we just WAIT and see what happens.

PastorMikH · 08-17-2008, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

Eli didn't have the benefit of holding a clipboard one year while learning the speed of the pro game. Croyle should be ahead of him on the learning curve.

If everyone wants to hold Croyle to the Eli standard then fine, he should play in all 16 games this year and finish with 3,700+ yards, 24 TD's, 17 INTs and a 6.8 yard average.

I understand the learning curve bit, we can always point out differing variables - like Croyle didn't have a dad and brother who played in the NFL to get advice from.

I really don't have a problem expecting him to improve from last year, and I'd like to see him compare in completions, TD/INT ratios, as well as QB rating. I would hope that he does better this year than last - he did seem to get more comfortable as the year went on.

The point I was making with that post though had to do with Vanilla Thunder saying he wanted to dump Croyle but would take Eli. The point of the post was to show there really wasn't that much difference between the two QBs in their first starts.

**Reaper16** · 08-17-2008, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by AutumnWind

It was your stupid camp reports from last year that said he was looking great and was CLEARLY the better QB of all on the roster. That just proved you have no idea what your looking at when watching football.

Well, that's not saying much. He was better, despite his flaws, than Huard.

Hammock Parties · 08-17-2008, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by AutumnWind

It was your stupid camp reports from last year that said he was looking great and was CLEARLY the better QB of all on the roster. That just proved you have no idea what your looking at when watching football.

Well that was accurate at the time. Croyle had a solid camp. He looked like a completely different player in the preseason.

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RealSNR Special Teams ACE!!! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Where the hell is SNR Casino cash: $2360208	Croyle lost all six games as a starter. He's terrible. Barry Sanders went through many, many shitty years in Detroit as the starting RB. He must be terrible. Jesus, people. Football is a TEAM sport, assholes. Having great players is nice, but for every Peyton Manning and Tom Brady that wins the Super Bowl, you get a Trent Dilfer, Brad Johnson, or an Eli Manning. And I refuse to buy the bullshit that just because the QB is the most important position on the offense, a QB that loses games is a terrible QB. How about we just WAIT and see what happens.
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