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Old 02-18-2013, 04:45 PM   #1
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Lets not get to outta control. Geno, Wilson, and Bark are good prospects. Thats about it.
Can't wait to see what Reid can do with a "good prospect" at quarterback.
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Old 02-18-2013, 04:41 PM   #2
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Put it this way...My opinion has taken a complete 180 on what the Chiefs should do at #1. I was in the QB or bust mentality from the get-go. The more I watch film on these quarterback prospects though, I can't with 100% certainty say I would be ridiculously upset if we ended up with Joeckel or Star and Dysert/Nassib, especially given that we have a coach that I have the utmost confidence in to develop his own quarterback.

Geno definitely sticks out to me in terms of the top talent at the QB position in this draft, but I've finally come to the conclusion that I'm not going to panic if they don't go QB at #1. That's just me, and I want a stud QB as bad as the next person.
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Old 02-18-2013, 04:43 PM   #3
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Put it this way...My opinion has taken a complete 180 on what the Chiefs should do at #1. I was in the QB or bust mentality from the get-go. The more I watch film on these quarterback prospects though, I can't with 100% certainty say I would be ridiculously upset if we ended up with Joeckel or Star and Dysert/Nassib, especially given that we have a coach that I have the utmost confidence in to develop his own quarterback.

Geno definitely sticks out to me in terms of the top talent at the QB position in this draft, but I've finally come to the conclusion that I'm not going to panic if they don't go QB at #1. That's just me, and I want a stud QB as bad as the next person.
Dysert is 2-3 years away from being ready to play.

Nassib is basically Andy Dalton, and while that's probably "above average" that will never be GREAT. We need to be shooting for GREAT.

Joeckel and Star would be absolute WASTES of the only #1 overall pick in franchise history. Outside of off the field things like Joe Delaney or Derrick Thomas dying, it would be the biggest tragedy in team history.
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Old 02-18-2013, 05:55 PM   #4
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Put it this way...My opinion has taken a complete 180 on what the Chiefs should do at #1. I was in the QB or bust mentality from the get-go. The more I watch film on these quarterback prospects though, I can't with 100% certainty say I would be ridiculously upset if we ended up with Joeckel or Star and Dysert/Nassib, especially given that we have a coach that I have the utmost confidence in to develop his own quarterback.

Geno definitely sticks out to me in terms of the top talent at the QB position in this draft, but I've finally come to the conclusion that I'm not going to panic if they don't go QB at #1. That's just me, and I want a stud QB as bad as the next person.
No you don't.

If you don't want to sacrifice what it takes and endure the potentially lengthy process of drafting QBs until they get it right, then you DON'T want a stud QB as much as everybody else. That means QB isn't as important to you as it is for other people.
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Old 02-18-2013, 04:43 PM   #5
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Guess what? If the qb busts at #1 we'll be in the perfect position to draft another one next year.
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Old 02-18-2013, 04:44 PM   #6
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Guess what? If the qb busts at #1 we'll be in the perfect position to draft another one next year.
Sounds good to me.
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Old 02-18-2013, 04:50 PM   #7
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Sounds good to me.
And there's the difference between fans and GMs and coaches. They take a QB that busts, and it gets less and less likely they'll be around long enough to get it right. So they're more cautious than fans, for obvious reasons, and really want to get it right or not do it at all.
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Old 02-18-2013, 04:52 PM   #8
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And there's the difference between fans and GMs and coaches. They take a QB that busts, and it gets less and less likely they'll be around long enough to get it right. So they're more cautious than fans, for obvious reasons, and really want to get it right or not do it at all.
And thats a problem.


Get it right or not do it at all can make you too "scared" for lack of better word, to make the right choice.
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Old 02-18-2013, 04:55 PM   #9
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And thats a problem.


Get it right or not do it at all can make you too "scared" for lack of better word, to make the right choice.
Just mentioning the stakes. And they have to get it right. I trust these guys with that position as much as any brain trust in the NFL
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Old 02-18-2013, 04:53 PM   #10
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And there's the difference between fans and GMs and coaches. They take a QB that busts, and it gets less and less likely they'll be around long enough to get it right. So they're more cautious than fans, for obvious reasons, and really want to get it right or not do it at all.
I would fully support a gm that balls and tried something new and didn't do the "safe" thing just because he's worried about his job.
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Old 02-18-2013, 04:53 PM   #11
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And there's the difference between fans and GMs and coaches. They take a QB that busts, and it gets less and less likely they'll be around long enough to get it right. So they're more cautious than fans, for obvious reasons, and really want to get it right or not do it at all.
Yep. Mentioned that earlier today.
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Old 02-18-2013, 04:49 PM   #12
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Yes, Reid is great at developing his QB's. I also want him to use his developmental skills on the guy with the highest upside. IF that be Geno, Wilson, or Barkley fine.


But I don't see it being, a guy like Glennon etc.
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Old 02-18-2013, 04:53 PM   #13
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I was one of the CP crowd last spring trying to explain why we might take DeCastro at #11. I realized that was too early for a guard, but the talking heads said he was a once in a generation guard, so I went with it.

Then Pittsburgh drafted him and he had a terrible preseason.

Now, Mayock is telling us that there are two more once-in-a-generation guards available in this draft? I'm sorry. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice and screw you. I had a hard enough time convincing myself that I could live with a guard at #11. There is no way I can see taking a guard sooner than that. If you want Womack, trade down to #11 and take him, but don't waste my time with this nonsense.

This is a QB league. This is certainly not a guard league.
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Old 02-18-2013, 04:59 PM   #14
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Old 02-18-2013, 05:18 PM   #15
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Yeah, because the potential of doing the same ****ing thing that brought 40 years of failure is so ****ing hilarious. Hardy har har.
They are projecting. Trying to throw out opinions that aren't in the norm to create conversation, and you are biting. It's had nothing to do with what the Chiefs might do. If a QB is impressive at the combine the Chiefs will take him. No question about it. You guys freaking on every person that throws out a different take that has nothing to do with the Chiefs is hilarious. The only exception would be Dorsey's comment, but he hasn't seen Geno workout or interviewed him. If his opinion is the same after that then go ahead and freak the **** out.

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