We wanted Paxton Lynch

[RodInCanton]

Originally Posted by BlackOp

Well..he's off to terrible start. Lost both QBs and didn't have the financial resources to even replace one. That's essentially his responsibility...to maintain a competitive roster and manage the cap.

He's left a championship caliber defense with Sanchez as their only QB with experience. If were fan of the team...I would be pissed. That should never happen...

In the 5 years Elway has been in charge, we have never lost an AFC championship, been to two super bowls winning 1, we have a lot of young good talent drafted and acquired via UDFA. Throw in some great FA signings and you have the nucleus of a very good team. The Broncos may have to step back this year as they figure out their QB situation but all they need is somebody who can QB as good as Dilfer did w/ the Ravens. If one is not on the roster this year then you try again next!

Overall, the only people who cannot be happy w/ his performance as GM is other teams in the AFC West since we have been dominant over this time.

[BlackOp]

Originally Posted by RodInCanton

In the 5 years Elway has been in charge, we have never lost an AFC championship, been to two super bowls winning 1, we have a lot of young good talent drafted and acquired via UDFA. Throw in some great FA signings and you have the nucleus of a very good team. The Broncos may have to step back this year as they figure out their QB situation but all they need is somebody who can QB as good as Dilfer did w/ the Ravens. If one is not on the roster this year then you try again next!

Overall, the only people who cannot be happy w/ his performance as GM is other teams in the AFC West since we have been dominant over this time.

His AFCW performance is directly a result of having Manningstein fall in his lap...and the players that followed him due to it. Sanders didn't sign there because Elway is a genius. If Peyton goes to the Titans...KC would have owned the division since Reid/Dorsey arrived. Elway is more lucky than skillful as a GM.

His snake oil is starting wash away...take a hard look at the QB/O-line situation this pre-season. He's set Kubiak up to fail.

[RodInCanton]

Originally Posted by BlackOp

His AFCW performance is directly a result of having Manningstein fall in his lap...and the players that followed him due to it. Sanders didn't sign there because Elway is a genius. If Peyton goes to the Titans...KC would have owned the division since Reid/Dorsey arrived. Elway is more lucky than skillful as a GM.

His snake oil is starting wash away...take a hard look at the QB/O-line situation this pre-season. He's set Kubiak up to fail.

Not even taking free agents into account (since Manning signed them), here are the players Elway was responsible for bringing onto the team. Throw in the already mentioned championships and it seems pretty good for a 5 year haul!
Players he has drafted:
Von Miller(stud), Julius Thomas (signed big contract w/ Jacksonville), Nate Irving (signed contract w/ Colts starting ILB), Virgil Green (starting TE), Orlando Franklin (signed big contract w/ Chargers), Rahim Moore (Browns safety, made one of the most cringe-worthy plays in Broncos history), Danny Trevathan (Good player, signed big contract w/ Bears), Malik Jackson (great player, signed huge contract), Omar Bolden (Good 5 years as backup and quality special teamer - signed w/ Chicago), Ronnie Hillman (serviceable at best backup RB), Brock Osweiler (signed huge contract w/ Texans), Derek Wolfe (really good player re-signed under market value), Sylvester Williams (make or break year, has the talent but the desire?), Kayvon Webster (Great special teamer and backup DB), Corey Nelson (first two years were developmental - challenging for a starting ILB role), Matt Paradis (starting center and looked good last year), Michael Schofield (backup tackle at most, possible move to G), Cody Latimer (Put up or shut up year) Bradley Roby (One of the best if not the best 3rd CB - would be a 2nd or 1st CB on most teams), Trevor Siemian (possible starting QB - don't know what he can do),Darius Kilgo (2nd year player stepping up to primary backup for NT), Max Garcia (starting G), Ty Sambrailo (starting LT as a rookie until hurt - looking at RG this year), Shane Ray (great pass rusher who will play 1st and 2nd downs for Demarcus Ware)
Undrafted Free Agents
Chris Harris (Complete stud and one of the best CB), Brandon Marshall (very good LB), Duke Ihenacho (great special teamer/ok safety going into 5th year w/ Redskins), Steven Johnson (serviceable LB w/ Steelers), Mike Remmers (starting RT for Panthers), C.J. Anderson(starting RB), Lerentee McCray (looking good in Packers camp after 2 years w/ Broncos), Shaquil Barrett (really good OLB), Bennie Fowler(decent receiver), Juwan Thompson (serviceable blocking RB/good ST), Kenny Anunike (good DL should get his chance w/ Malik Jackson gone)

[Mile High Mania]

Originally Posted by BlackOp

His AFCW performance is directly a result of having Manningstein fall in his lap...and the players that followed him due to it. Sanders didn't sign there because Elway is a genius. If Peyton goes to the Titans...KC would have owned the division since Reid/Dorsey arrived. Elway is more lucky than skillful as a GM.

His snake oil is starting wash away...take a hard look at the QB/O-line situation this pre-season. He's set Kubiak up to fail.

Ok. Well, it's not like they drew Manning's name out of a hat and were awarded his service... the guy was a player that many were scared to death to sign. Elway did what he needed/wanted to do to move beyond Tebow.

You're too wrapped up in a few things that happened this year that somehow trump all the things that happened in the last 4 years. And, that's fine. You'll never have an inkling of respect for the guy or the team and that's totally cool.