Chiefs Chiefs defense one of the best in the league - Page 11

penbrook · 10-19-2014, 09:21 PM

Chiefs D is giving up 5th least PPG while facing Rivers, Manning, Brady, Kaepernick. Thats with missing a lot of key players.

O.city · 10-20-2014, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Wallcrawler

Ahhhh. Because Bowe does that every game....

Oh wait...

How many targets did he have yesterday compared to most games?

O.city · 10-20-2014, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Wallcrawler

The only thing Dwayne Bowe does consistently for us is not score touchdowns. He's 6 for 6 on the year in games doing that.

He may need a raise, if we want him to keep this up.

How many times has he been targeted in the redzone?

temper11 · 10-20-2014, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

Right. We can't give the defense too much credit, but that takes away credit from Alice and a possible Alexcuse down the line. You're so ****ing transparent

WTF? Guy just gave props to the D - what are you talking about? Why do people keep trying to bring Smith into a thread talking about the Defense?

I too thought the D played great yesterday. Especially the pass rush. Looked like Rivers was uncomfortable all game. Really solid effort. Honestly, after the Indy game, I wouldn't have been sad to see Sutton go, but he has really done well this year especially given all of the injuries. Even in the losses (Titans game notwithstanding) the defense has played stout football against really good teams. Tip of the cap to Sutton and the D.

temper11 · 10-20-2014, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

I think there was a little bit of the "Oh Shit. I've actually got the ball and there is the end zone" factor in play... he got excited and lost focus.

this.

Frosty · 10-20-2014, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

How many times has he been targeted in the redzone?

According to this, only twice.

*cue "Bowe can't get open" complaints*

O.city · 10-20-2014, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Frosty

According to this, only twice.

*cue "Bowe can't get open" complaints*

Lol

temper11 · 10-20-2014, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

Alex is serviceable if the defense plays well and they don't throw the ball more than they run. Andy just falls in love with the pass from time to time and that's not a recipe for success with Alex. I think a 50/50 ratio is probably best and running more than passing is fine, but if we throw more than run in a game I'd say it's 20/80 we win that game.

I would say that's not a recipe for success with KC receivers. We just don't have the receivers to lean on them the way Reid want's to. Smith can throw accurately all game long. He's not going to throw deep a ton. Just isn't... but he can pick teams apart all game if he has decent play from his receivers.

Hootie · 10-20-2014, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Frosty

According to this, only twice.

*cue "Bowe can't get open" complaints*

The other interesting thing is, if I were to guess, I bet we're in the top 3rd of the league in red zone efficiency, if not higher

So we're complaining about receivers not getting touchdowns even though we've been efficient in the red zone all year

Sometimes complaining has merit...these are not one of those times

temper11 · 10-20-2014, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

He reeled in the majority of his targets sans one terrible drop and he never complains about not getting the ball. I don't see why people hate the guy. But hey, chiefs planet!

I don't care about the pointing to his jersey. I don't care about a couple of drops, the thing I can't stand about Bowe is the lack of effort he shows on some plays. You give everything you've got and drop a pass - no worries. You "phone it in" and drop a pass... Get the **** out.

**The Franchise** · 10-20-2014, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by temper11

I would say that's not a recipe for success with KC receivers. We just don't have the receivers to lean on them the way Reid want's to. Smith can throw accurately all game long. He's not going to throw deep a ton. Just isn't... but he can pick teams apart all game if he has decent play from his receivers.

Accurately?

Like throwing behind his WRs on slants? He does that shit consistently.

Hootie · 10-20-2014, 12:16 PM

I guess I don't know what I'm watching, then...because I'm not particularly some huge Dwayne Bowe fan or anything...but I've never seen anything but a good teammate / good effort football player...he blocks well, etc

He's a solid NFL receiver and, more importantly, a team first guy at a me first position.

The hate flung at the guy because he makes money is ridiculous. He's a solid, forgettable Chief.

temper11 · 10-20-2014, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Wallcrawler

Then he makes a 5 yard catch on a slant and gets up pounding his chest like he's done some amazing ****ing feat.

Didn't you see Jerry McGuire? The chest pounding stuff is how you get them to "show you the money".

RINGLEADER · 10-20-2014, 12:18 PM

Was pleasantly surprised after the row of QBs we've faced that we're:

#2 against the pass.

#3 on third-down conversions allowed.

#7 in points allowed per game.

#6 in sacks per game.

#3 in touchdowns allowed.

Only place we're really sucking is in creating turnovers and rush defense (now 18th).

If you back out that abortion of a first game against the Titans it gets even better...

ChiefsChoke010414 · 10-20-2014, 12:19 PM

Yeah, the defense has looked strangely good without its two most important players. Not sure what to make of that.

Maybe we'd have won the Superbowl last season without Kendrick Lewis and Quentin Demps.

Frosty · 10-20-2014, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

Accurately?

Like throwing behind his WRs on slants? He does that shit consistently.

I don't want to sound like an Alex hater, but I didn't think he was very accurate yesterday. The receivers had to frequently twist around awkwardly to catch the passes. On the pass to Wilson, even though he was wide open, he had to go to a knee to get the ball, which cost him yards (still had a nice spin move to pick up a first down, iirc).

Not every pass, of course, but quite a few of them.

10-19-2014, 09:21 PM
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Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	I guess I don't know what I'm watching, then...because I'm not particularly some huge Dwayne Bowe fan or anything...but I've never seen anything but a good teammate / good effort football player...he blocks well, etc He's a solid NFL receiver and, more importantly, a team first guy at a me first position. The hate flung at the guy because he makes money is ridiculous. He's a solid, forgettable Chief.
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RINGLEADER In Search of a Life Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Confusion, USA Casino cash: $8600503	Was pleasantly surprised after the row of QBs we've faced that we're: #2 against the pass. #3 on third-down conversions allowed. #7 in points allowed per game. #6 in sacks per game. #3 in touchdowns allowed. Only place we're really sucking is in creating turnovers and rush defense (now 18th). If you back out that abortion of a first game against the Titans it gets even better...
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10-20-2014, 12:19 PM	#164
ChiefsChoke010414 Banned Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Kansas City, MO Casino cash: $10010670	Yeah, the defense has looked strangely good without its two most important players. Not sure what to make of that. Maybe we'd have won the Superbowl last season without Kendrick Lewis and Quentin Demps.
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