Chiefs Jeff Chadiha Interviewed on 810 this morning -Interesting bits about Cassel and OC - Page 22

chop · 10-10-2012, 08:15 AM

I think some coaches/GMs get caught up in the guys potential and have a blind eye to a players negatives. Cassel looks like, and sometimes plays like, a good NFL QB but he doesn't do it on a consistant basis. Coaches and GMs think that if they stay with the player, or get the player more talent araound them, that the player will somehow be the player that he is on the good occasions more often than not. Cassel has shown that he is an inconsistant player all of the time. It is past time for the GM to realize this and move on.

Micjones · 10-10-2012, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by chop

I think some coaches/GMs get caught up in the guys potential and have a blind eye to a players negatives. Cassel looks like, and sometimes plays like, a good NFL QB but he doesn't do it on a consistant basis. Coaches and GMs think that if they stay with the player, or get the player more talent araound them, that the player will somehow be the player that he is on the good occasions more often than not. Cassel has shown that he is an inconsistant player all of the time. It is past time for the GM to realize this and move on.

Goes the other way too. I think sometimes a coach or a GM overlooks a guy with talent over the few things they don't like about the guy.

I honestly wonder how many careers have been derailed because a coach didn't believe in a guy.
Who might have otherwise been able to show something.

chop · 10-10-2012, 12:39 PM

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Goes the other way too. I think sometimes a coach or a GM overlooks a guy with talent over the few things they don't like about the guy.

I honestly wonder how many careers have been derailed because a coach didn't believe in a guy.
Who might have otherwise been able to show something.

I totally agree with this also. I think there are a lot of players that don't get much of a chance to make a team because they don't fit some of the measurables the coach wants in his players ( long arms, 4.3 speed, etc...).

Hammock Parties · 10-10-2012, 01:10 PM

I'll give you the best reason they won't bench Cassel:

Brady Quinn is a POS.

Titty Meat · 10-10-2012, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning

I'll give you the best reason they won't bench Cassel:

Brady Quinn is a POS.

Yup. Pioli assembled the most talented team picking top 5

GM of the millenium.

Hammock Parties · 10-10-2012, 01:17 PM

We are gonna be the best 5-11 team ever.

Crush · 10-10-2012, 01:38 PM

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We are gonna be the best 5-11 team ever.

At least we won five games. /Hermeo

FAX · 10-10-2012, 02:23 PM

I know I can't convince anyone that what I'm saying is true. People have to come to that realization on their own ... if they ever do. Years of faithful loyalty don't just evaporate overnight and it's difficult to believe that an NFL franchise could operate with no emphasis on consistent success.

For my part, I've heard all the arguments that our situation is simply the product of a long history of poor decision-making or bad luck and I finally had to reject them. It just doesn't make sense. And, if you set them aside for a moment, you begin to realize that there is more going on here than mere incompetence. There is a lot of money being paid out to people who are not producing positive results ... a lot of money. Meanwhile, people who strive and fight for accountability are fired while incompetence is rewarded.

If you step back and look at this entire situation with cold, impartial objectivity, the fact that the Chiefs organization could barely care less about the fans and/or fielding a truly competitive football team becomes frighteningly clear and it's not just reflected in our record.

FAX

Micjones · 10-10-2012, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by FAX

I know I can't convince anyone that what I'm saying is true. People have to come to that realization on their own ... if they ever do. Years of faithful loyalty don't just evaporate overnight and it's difficult to believe that an NFL franchise could operate with no emphasis on consistent success.

For my part, I've heard all the arguments that our situation is simply the product of a long history of poor decision-making or bad luck and I finally had to reject them. It just doesn't make sense. And, if you set them aside for a moment, you begin to realize that there is more going on here than mere incompetence. There is a lot of money being paid out to people who are not producing positive results ... a lot of money. Meanwhile, people who strive and fight for accountability are fired while incompetence is rewarded.

If you step back and look at this entire situation with cold, impartial objectivity, the fact that the Chiefs organization could barely care less about the fans and/or fielding a truly competitive football team becomes frighteningly clear and it's not just reflected in our record.

FAX

Widen the scope and look at other organizations who've had long bouts with failure. It's not just the Chiefs. There are other organizations we can name. Ultimately the organizations that have won consistently...have done so because they've consistently made good decisions, put good decision makers in place, and been good stewards of personnel. Some organizations have winning philosophies.

**DaneMcCloud** · 10-10-2012, 02:49 PM

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Some organizations have winning philosophies.

Which leads right back to ownership.

Duh.

Micjones · 10-10-2012, 02:49 PM

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Which leads right back to ownership.

Duh.

And we can take that mean we don't have one because they don't care to have one?

Hammock Parties · 10-10-2012, 02:35 PM

Dane, will you admit Clark cares if he fires Pioli?

**DaneMcCloud** · 10-10-2012, 02:38 PM

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Dane, will you admit Clark cares if he fires Pioli?

Cares? I don't think I'd go that far but I would compliment him on making a fine business decision.

FringeNC · 10-10-2012, 02:55 PM

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He revealed that Haley told him that his father, Dick Haley (famous Steelers personnel man), upon watching Cassel practice told him "I don't think you can win with this guy"

Haley's dad was able to determine watching ONE PRACTICE that Cassel simply didn't have it. Yet Pioli watched him for years in NE during practice, and watched him shit all over himself here, and still thinks he can play.

Just think about that. WTF does the say about Pioli?

**Rausch** · 10-10-2012, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by FringeNC

Haley's dad was able to determine watching ONE PRACTICE that Cassel simply didn't have it. Yet Pioli watched him for years in NE during practice, and watched him shit all over himself here, and still thinks he can play.

Just think about that. WTF does the say about Pioli?

Explains our drafts.

If you aren't any good at evaluating the QB or skill positions just don't draft them. Build your team from the "front back."

A great offensive line makes the HB and QB look good.

A great D line makes the LB's and DB's look good...

10-10-2012, 08:15 AM	#1
chop Go Chiefs! Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Michigan Casino cash: $2714270	I think some coaches/GMs get caught up in the guys potential and have a blind eye to a players negatives. Cassel looks like, and sometimes plays like, a good NFL QB but he doesn't do it on a consistant basis. Coaches and GMs think that if they stay with the player, or get the player more talent araound them, that the player will somehow be the player that he is on the good occasions more often than not. Cassel has shown that he is an inconsistant player all of the time. It is past time for the GM to realize this and move on. __________________ Never be satisfied with what you achieve, because it all pales in comparison with what you are capable of doing in the future.
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FAX testing ... 1, 2, 3 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Tennessee Casino cash: $6753759	I know I can't convince anyone that what I'm saying is true. People have to come to that realization on their own ... if they ever do. Years of faithful loyalty don't just evaporate overnight and it's difficult to believe that an NFL franchise could operate with no emphasis on consistent success. For my part, I've heard all the arguments that our situation is simply the product of a long history of poor decision-making or bad luck and I finally had to reject them. It just doesn't make sense. And, if you set them aside for a moment, you begin to realize that there is more going on here than mere incompetence. There is a lot of money being paid out to people who are not producing positive results ... a lot of money. Meanwhile, people who strive and fight for accountability are fired while incompetence is rewarded. If you step back and look at this entire situation with cold, impartial objectivity, the fact that the Chiefs organization could barely care less about the fans and/or fielding a truly competitive football team becomes frighteningly clear and it's not just reflected in our record. FAX
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10-10-2012, 02:35 PM	#12
Hammock Parties I'll be back. Join Date: Nov 2002 Casino cash: $4580478	Dane, will you admit Clark cares if he fires Pioli? __________________ Chiefs game films
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