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Old 11-03-2009, 07:15 AM  
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Johnny Damon Hall of Famer??

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All of which is just a long introduction to the question: is Johnny Damon a Hall of Famer?

He's sitting at 2,425 hits, so four more seasons and -- assuming the Yankees win one of the next three -- he'll have 3,000 hits along with (at least) two championship rings. Pretty good case, no?

He has scored more than 100 runs 10 times in his career. He will probably finish his career in the top 20 all-time, and perhaps even top 10 in runs scored.

It's a better career than you might think off hand, and in the end, his Hall candidacy probably depends more upon how closely voters draw their circle than anything.

For me, he falls just outside, as one of the really good players whose exclusion from the Hall makes the honor of being inducted even more special.

There are just too many holes in the argument. He's a top-of-the-order guy who strikes out more than he walks, is a career .288 hitter and never finished in the top 10 in on-base percentage (his career high was .382 in his last season with the Royals in 2000).

He is a corner outfielder with a legendarily bad arm who's led the league in something just three times -- runs (136) and steals (46) in 2000, and triples (11) in 2002. He's made just two All-Star teams, and never finished higher than 13th in MVP voting.

More than any of that, he's never been the best player at his position, or on his team. On Baseball Reference's similarity score, Lou Brock is the only Hall of Famer among the 10 listed with Damon (though Pete Rose is one of the others).

Anyway, the point here is not to bash a really good player the day after giving us a really great moment.

The point here is to solicit the thoughts of you fine readers while I prepare to jog off some of the cheesesteak from yesterday.

The Keltner List is a good tool to use in making judgments.
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Old 11-03-2009, 12:04 PM   #31
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Good lord.
And there is one more young stud pitcher we could have had outside Lincecum, but I'm blanking on his name. Second rounder, maybe?
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Old 11-03-2009, 12:40 PM   #32
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porcello and the catcher for the baltimore would be nice, but whatever.
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Old 11-03-2009, 12:43 PM   #33
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porcello and the catcher for the baltimore would be nice, but whatever.
Demon with the knowledge. Grienke, Lincecum, Meche, and Porcello. Dammit, son.
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Old 04-01-2013, 06:52 PM   #34
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Bump...just a little update on old Johnny.....not currently with a team, but still staying in shape waiting for a call. Hes 231 hits away from 3000.



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I wanted to give you all a quick update as many of you have written emails asking what is next for me. I really appreciate the support and kind words. Even though spring training is coming to a close, I haven't given up on the idea of playing this season. I've been able to keep in shape and be ready if and when a call comes. I still believe I have a lot to offer a team and the game of baseball. In addition to getting ready for the season, I've been very busy solidifying relationships that will carry me into my business career when my playing days are over. Over the years, I've been very careful with endorsement and sponsorship opportunities by aligning with products that I believe in and use on a daily basis. I've taken the same approach in my business opportunities. Over the past 4 months, I've been working closely with Grain Audio, A Game and Muscle Aid Tape to learn about each and use the products. I have done extensive research, testing and getting to know the personnel at each company which has lead me to partner with each. I am very excited about each and wanted to share them with you on my site.

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Old 04-01-2013, 06:58 PM   #35
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Old 04-01-2013, 07:15 PM   #36
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He's a hell of a player and I have always been a fan of his but I have never thought of him as a HOF guy.
Yup. Valuable lineup guy -- an ideal leadoff hitter with adequate speed, but can foul off a shitload of pitches. Great leader. Good not great in the field with a bad arm.

Not a hall of famer, but a great guy to have on your team.
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Old 04-01-2013, 07:58 PM   #37
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Not even close to a hall of famer. But definitely above average player who posted a long career. Always like him when he was a Royals. Became a giant douche when he signed with the Yankees.
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Old 04-01-2013, 08:09 PM   #38
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Nobody with only 2 all star appearances will ever seriously sniff teh HOF.

He's in the Hall of Really Good for a Really Long Time. That's it.
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Old 04-01-2013, 08:12 PM   #39
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Makes me sick how many good players we let go, only to end up with crumbier players.

Johnny Damon
Jermaine Dye
Carlos Beltran
and on and on...

Spend some money, Glass.
This..............
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Damon is the kind of player that should be famous for his postseason heroics, but not a hall of famer, he should be a guy that people mistake for being in the hall of fame...if that makes sense.
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Old 04-01-2013, 09:36 PM   #41
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They should have a Hall of the Very Good. It's not the Hall of Fame. But some players can't make the HoF, but they should be remembered still.
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