Chiefs Who likes the Bill Muir promotion and who dont? - Page 11

CrazyHorse · 02-03-2011, 04:26 PM

Just thought it might be easier to keep track with a poll.

ChiefsCountry · 02-03-2011, 07:55 PM

Singeltary was one former HC I know.

Rams Fan · 02-03-2011, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Singeltary was one former HC I know.

That is correct. The other one was Nolan. How many current(and two that were fired within the past 2 months) HCs were on the 1985 Bears team?

ChiefsCountry · 02-03-2011, 08:02 PM

Fisher
Singenltary
Rivera

Wallcrawler · 02-03-2011, 08:03 PM

I figured a hire like this would come up. I cant really see any confident, and competent OC candidate wanting to come into KC knowing full well that they would have Haley breathing down their neck all season long. If Haley is up to the task this time around, I have no problem with it. He's a good offensive mind, so we know that the offense isnt soley being given over to an O-line coach to play real life Madden on Sundays.

The biggest loss in Weis departure is that constant, solid coaching that Matt Cassel received. He improved, for sure. However, he's nowhere near a finished product. Without Weis there, and seemingly nobody there to step into the QB coach role, we could either see no improvement at all, or possibly even a regression from Matt Cassel. If that happens with a legit schedule, we are probably looking at a .500 team again. Cassel has to get better.

As mentioned before, I also think that Muir is probably going to coordinate the rushing attack, and Haley will scheme the passing game.

Overall, im not really thrilled with the promotion, but like many others I feel like this is Haley's team and they went from dead last in the division to winning the division and securing a playoff spot. I think he deserves the benefit of the doubt.

Rams Fan · 02-03-2011, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Fisher
Singenltary
Rivera

There's one more.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 02-03-2011, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Rams Fan

There's one more.

The Hitman Gary Fencik?
Steve Mongo McMichael?

KurtCobain · 02-03-2011, 09:07 PM

I like Haley and I'm nervous about him doing this with such a tough scedule coming up. He's putting the world on his shoulders obviously, and if they Chiefs lose a couple of more games next year than they did this year, he's probably gone because it's all on him. And with the schedule we could be 7-9 next year and be a better team.

chiefzilla1501 · 02-03-2011, 09:15 PM

Not a fan, but not going to judge until I see how it works out.

**DaneMcCloud** · 02-03-2011, 09:31 PM

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Not a fan, but not going to judge until I see how it works out.

Way to make a stand

chuxtrux · 02-03-2011, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

The offensive lineman, especially Brendan Albert, have regressed since Muir was hired. Richardson, despite his ideal size and strength, has not progressed as expected. Jon Asamoah, a four year starter and rated the second best lineman in the draft, only started one game.

The receiving corp, outside of Bowe, was fairly awful. Bowe had a career year but it's not like it was "Out of the Blue". He'd been a 1,000 yard receiver with Damon Huard, Brodie Croyle and Tyler Thigpen as his QB.

The running backs were misused all year long.

With that in mind, I could have easily seen Haley dismiss Muir, Parmalee and Carthon, yet Muir was promoted.

You can't put Albert fully on Muir. If you really want to blame someone, blame Haley because he made BA slim down and play OT a different way than he did his rookie year. I think Haley was justified because Albert's ceiling playing the old way wasn't that high. I thought the last few games his second year he made great strides but for whatever reason that didn't carry over this year. It could have been coaching, or it could have been it was because BA had a nagging injury that got worse throughout the year which was why he looked so slow the last two games. As for Richardson, I don't understand why people on here can't grasp that maybe he just isn't very good and there was a reason, despite his size and athleticism, he fell to the middle rounds.

Look, maybe you're right, maybe Bill Muir is a terrible o-line coach. Maybe he falls asleep during games and forgets to coach. Maybe he makes the team watch 1920's silent movies when they should be studying film during the week. I don't know. I am not around the team that much anymore. The thing I don't understand is how everyone here has such strong reactions to this move yet they know so little about the guy. By all accounts he is pretty respected around the NFL.

**J Diddy** · 02-03-2011, 09:35 PM

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Way to make a stand

I think he sucks. Unless he's good.

**wazu** · 02-03-2011, 09:35 PM

HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE

**J Diddy** · 02-03-2011, 09:37 PM

I don't think it makes a shit either way. haley will be running the offense. He just needs a puppet in title only to help with meetings. Hence why Muir is still coaching the O line.

Ugly Duck · 02-03-2011, 09:38 PM

I like it. Looks almost as aware as Tom Cable.

**J Diddy** · 02-03-2011, 09:39 PM

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I like it. Looks almost as aware as Tom Cable.

Dude that' some scary shit right there. Looks like al davis' nephew.

View Poll Results: You likey or no?
Yes I am encouraged	22	12.09%
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02-03-2011, 04:26 PM
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02-03-2011, 08:03 PM	#154
Wallcrawler How tall is this thing? Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Ground 0 for enema of US. Casino cash: $4172912	I figured a hire like this would come up. I cant really see any confident, and competent OC candidate wanting to come into KC knowing full well that they would have Haley breathing down their neck all season long. If Haley is up to the task this time around, I have no problem with it. He's a good offensive mind, so we know that the offense isnt soley being given over to an O-line coach to play real life Madden on Sundays. The biggest loss in Weis departure is that constant, solid coaching that Matt Cassel received. He improved, for sure. However, he's nowhere near a finished product. Without Weis there, and seemingly nobody there to step into the QB coach role, we could either see no improvement at all, or possibly even a regression from Matt Cassel. If that happens with a legit schedule, we are probably looking at a .500 team again. Cassel has to get better. As mentioned before, I also think that Muir is probably going to coordinate the rushing attack, and Haley will scheme the passing game. Overall, im not really thrilled with the promotion, but like many others I feel like this is Haley's team and they went from dead last in the division to winning the division and securing a playoff spot. I think he deserves the benefit of the doubt. __________________ She did not open her eyes this morning. I don't know what else to say.
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02-03-2011, 09:07 PM	#157
KurtCobain legend Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Independence, MO Casino cash: $-1707903	I like Haley and I'm nervous about him doing this with such a tough scedule coming up. He's putting the world on his shoulders obviously, and if they Chiefs lose a couple of more games next year than they did this year, he's probably gone because it's all on him. And with the schedule we could be 7-9 next year and be a better team.
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chiefzilla1501 In Search of a Life Join Date: Aug 2008 Casino cash: $1874497	Not a fan, but not going to judge until I see how it works out.
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02-03-2011, 09:35 PM	#162
wazu ... Join Date: May 2002 Location: Kansas City, MO Casino cash: $1972295 VARSITY	HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE
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02-03-2011, 09:37 PM	#163
J Diddy Don't Be A Dick Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Joplin Casino cash: $6767192	I don't think it makes a shit either way. haley will be running the offense. He just needs a puppet in title only to help with meetings. Hence why Muir is still coaching the O line.
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02-03-2011, 09:38 PM	#164
Ugly Duck MVP Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Petaluma, CA, USA Casino cash: $9955920	I like it. Looks almost as aware as Tom Cable.
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