New Jersey kids randomly knock people out.

[Tombstone RJ]

Originally Posted by beach tribe

I don't think locking up a single mom who is probably raising 5 more future knockout artists will solve shit either.

I'm sure the mom has some idea of who the dad might be. Run DNA tests on the possible dads and then hold him and her responsible.

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by beach tribe

I don't think locking up a single mom who is probably raising 5 more future knockout artists will solve shit either.

Oh, but they'll be a better parent when they get out.

[Fish]

Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ

I've said it before and I'll say it again. PROSECUTE THE PARENTS. There's been other threads here on cp about kids doing horrible things, kids who are under the age of 18.

I say if you make their parents liable for damages, all this type of crap ends IMMEDIATELY. For these gang kids in inner cities who probably have no father figure in their lives, hold their Moms or older sibling responsible, that is, force them to pay for damages or lock them and the perp kids up.

Something has to radically change in how we, as a society, approach youth crime. What we are doing IS NOT working. Kid's are getting worse and their behavior is blamed on everyone but the people most responsible, their parents. I guarantee you that if parents where liable for thier kid's actions, a whole hellava lot of this crap would stop. Not all of it, but a heck of a lot of it would be curtailed.

I don't hate the idea. But what effect are you expecting out of that scenario? Who pays the bill if you prosecute the parent? You think these kids' parents can afford to pay damages? Then what? Take the parents to jail? So the taxpayer is paying to jail the parent, and provide care for the child. We can hold the parents to whatever responsibility level you can dream up. The problem is that it wouldn't do any good and would likely cause even more of a strain on the system.

[Tombstone RJ]

Originally Posted by Fish

I don't hate the idea. But what effect are you expecting out of that scenario? Who pays the bill if you prosecute the parent? You think these kids' parents can afford to pay damages? Then what? Take the parents to jail? So the taxpayer is paying to jail the parent, and provide care for the child. We can hold the parents to whatever responsibility level you can dream up. The problem is that it wouldn't do any good and would likely cause even more of a strain on the system.

ok, think about it this way: if there is even a possibility of prosecuting the parents and holding them liable for their kid's actions, I think that will force many parents (who have kids who are out of control) to become better parents, that is, to not just kick the can down the street. They have to get involved or there is the possibility that if little Johnny kills someone drunk driving that they may in fact, be held responsible.

That's all I'm saying. Make it an option for the prosecution to go after said parents. I'm not saying it will work every time. But what I am saying is that in a case-by-case basis, if the prosecution has this option, it may indeed force parents to be way more active and responsible for their kid's lives.

[|Zach|]

Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ

ok, think about it this way: if there is even a possibility of prosecuting the parents and holding them liable for their kid's actions, I think that will force many parents (who have kids who are out of control) to become better parents, that is, to not just kick the can down the street. They have to get involved or there is the possibility that if little Johnny kills someone drunk driving that they may in fact, be held responsible.

That's all I'm saying. Make it an option for the prosecution to go after said parents. I'm not saying it will work every time. But what I am saying is that in a case-by-case basis, if the prosecution has this option, it may indeed force parents to be way more active and responsible for their kid's lives.

[King_Chief_Fan]

Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ

ok, think about it this way: if there is even a possibility of prosecuting the parents and holding them liable for their kid's actions, I think that will force many parents (who have kids who are out of control) to become better parents, that is, to not just kick the can down the street. They have to get involved or there is the possibility that if little Johnny kills someone drunk driving that they may in fact, be held responsible.

That's all I'm saying. Make it an option for the prosecution to go after said parents. I'm not saying it will work every time. But what I am saying is that in a case-by-case basis, if the prosecution has this option, it may indeed force parents to be way more active and responsible for their kid's lives.

I wished that would happen and work. Half of these kids probably only have one parent who has to work a couple of jobs to make ends meet.

If that happened to me or a family member, i return to the scene of the crime and let the Louisville Slugger hit a few home runs.

[Fish]

Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ

ok, think about it this way: if there is even a possibility of prosecuting the parents and holding them liable for their kid's actions, I think that will force many parents (who have kids who are out of control) to become better parents, that is, to not just kick the can down the street. They have to get involved or there is the possibility that if little Johnny kills someone drunk driving that they may in fact, be held responsible.

That's all I'm saying. Make it an option for the prosecution to go after said parents. I'm not saying it will work every time. But what I am saying is that in a case-by-case basis, if the prosecution has this option, it may indeed force parents to be way more active and responsible for their kid's lives.

Again, I'm not against trying something different. And I'm not even against some less popular draconian solutions. But I just really don't see any punishment making the people in these situations better parents. You can't force someone to be a better parent if they're resistant to it or just flat don't care. Most of these people have nothing, and they know they have nothing. It's hard to convince someone to change, when the motivation you're using is punishment by taking things away from them. About the only thing they have left to take is their freedom. And besides the ethics of that situation, we're still left to financially support them and their offspring, likely to a greater degree than we already are.

[Aries Walker]

I have no problem with prosecuting the parents, but actually I think if we could throw a few of the kids themselves in jail (or the Marine Corps), the rest of their buddies would find something else to do with their free time.

And what the hell was the teacher thinking? That pack of goons screamed danger.

[LoneWolf]

Public hangings. It's the only way to end this stupidity.

[nstygma]

Originally Posted by LoneWolf

Public hangings. It's the only way to end this stupidity.

public caning seems to work in some places.

[Fishpicker]

Originally Posted by nstygma

public caning seems to work in some places.

Corporal punishment will accomplish nothing by itself. Do you think these little monsters that play Knockout are not familiar with familial violence. They probably catch beatings on the reg. Hell, they probably learned the violence/compliance tact from their parent(s)

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by Fishpicker

Corporal punishment will accomplish nothing by itself. Do you think these little monsters that play Knockout are not familiar with familial violence. They probably catch beatings on the reg. Hell, they probably learned the violence/compliance tact from their parent(s)

Hey, don't bring reality into this... old white people from the suburbs are talking. These ideas could really get some votes fix this crap.

[KCrockaholic]

"In Alabama earlier this year, four members of the national championship football team were kicked out of school after three admitted to playing the Knockout Game two times on campus."

You gotta be kidding me? Even college kids are doing this bullshit?

[ThaVirus]

Originally Posted by KCrockaholic

You gotta be kidding me? Even college kids are doing this bullshit?

They're still idiot ass kids oftentimes. Actually, for the first couple years in their college careers, most of these ****ers are basically high schoolers with no more parental supervision.

[beach tribe]

Originally Posted by KCockaholic

"In Alabama earlier this year, four members of the national championship football team were kicked out of school after three admitted to playing the Knockout Game two times on campus."

You gotta be kidding me? Even college kids are doing this bullshit?

On campus.

You are on a NC team.

You KNOW someone will recognize you.

How ****ing stupid do you have to be?