Scott Pioli was supposed to be Thomas Dimitroff

[RunKC]

Face it. We're all jealous of what the Falcons have built. But look at Dimitroff and his appearance. He's the only Patriot exec or coach to leave the nest and have success. This was the guy Pioli was supposed to be for us.

-When Pioli got here, we were expecting some great drafting like New England has had.
Look at who Dimitroff has drafted (I won't even count Matt Ryan because that's a simple pick).
Sam Baker, Curtis Lofton, Thomas DeCoud, Harry Douglas, William Moore, Sean Witherspoon, Jacquizz Rodgers and Julio Jones.
Even Peter Konz looks like a really good addition on paper.
All these guys are players who are making big plays for them (or did in Curtis Lofton's case).

-Pioli was supposed to make big moves like Belicheck did.
Dimitroff has been the one making moves.
The trade for Gonzalez was pure genius. It made us look like reeruns considering we took a DB with the pick in exchange and he doesn't even start!
Then Dimitroff trades up into the first round for Sam Baker, who had a rough start, but has shown to be well worth that pick.
Dimirtoff made possibly the best draft trade any team has made in the last decade in the trade for Julio Jones.

-Filling the team with depth.
Pioli was supposed to be a mastermind at this, but Dimitroff has been tremendous in this area. Falcons lose their best defender in Curtis Lofton? No big deal. They drafted Witherspoon and Nicholas and they're fine.
They have Grimes and Robinson at CB so they are fine right? No. Dimitroff brings in Asante Samuel. Man this is just great work.

-Going outside of the New England circle for coaching hires

This is probably the area where Dimitroff has kicked Pioli's ass the most. Hiring Mike Smith was pure genius. He wasn't involved with the Pats at all.
Mike Mularkey had no Patriot tree roots and he brought him in. Good hire.
Now this year he brings in Nolan to run the defense. Another good hire.

Yeah they haven't won a playoff game like us, but they will this year and in the future. They are quickly becoming an elite team. I just wish that our path went the way theirs did.
That's why I hate watching the Falcons play. Because that's the kind of team we hoped Scott Pioli would bring us.

[Deberg_1990]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

He's not a franchise QB until he wins one of those games.

He certainly needs to win one to get himself to the next level, but lets not get ridiculous. Hes definately a top 10 QB. Hes brought stability and steady play to a franchise desperate for it and hes still fairly young.

I dont even think Peyton Manning won a playoff game until his 5th or 6th season?

[Black Bob]

I think he is a guy that you can build a franchise around. However, he does have to win in the playoffs. People around here go ballastic when they go one and done.

I think we've all seen QBs like Cassel shit the bed. However, no one shits the bed like matt Ryan in the playoffs. He's a different guy.

[Deberg_1990]

Originally Posted by BlackBob

I think he is a guy that you can build a franchise around. However, he does have to win in the playoffs. People around here go ballastic when they go one and done.

I think we've all seen QBs like Cassel shit the bed. However, no one shits the bed like matt Ryan in the playoffs. He's a different guy.

Personally, i would kill for the Chiefs to have a guy like Ryan, and i wanted him at the time.

4, probably 5 playoff appearances in a row to start your career. Thats pretty solid.

Look how filled Arrowhead stayed in the early 90s even though we were losing playoff games. I might even rank Ryan ahead of Rivers and definately Cutler.

[FloridaMan88]

The Atlanta front office is the anti-Chiefs. Arthur Blank is aggressive in spending money and creating a sense of urgency from the very top of the organization towards winning a Super Bowl. Dimitroff makes bold, aggressive moves in both free agency and in the draft to acquire talent.

[Black Bob]

I remembered this today and you should all check it out. It's pretty damn funny. It's the angry Falcons fan.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBNtAC_dy_0

[Sofa King]

Originally Posted by PGM

Can they win a playoff game before the mass suckoff please?

This

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning

I loved the way the Falcons came into Arrowhead and totally demolished Fat Scott's regime the first week of the 2012 season. It totally deflated any idea that Pioli was worth shit. I knew then he would be fired. Looking back, it was a real turning point.

God bless the Atlanta Falcons.

Amen.

[Hoover]

I think Pioli and Dimitroff have done very similar things with their teams.

Both changed the culture of their franchise. Both have created a lot of home-grown depth.

I think there are only two major differences.

1. Atlanta has a better owner.
2. Atlanta drafted a Quarterback with the 3rd overall pick, while the Chiefs signed a young player coming off a huge year.

In 2009, Pioli had just landed Cassel and the Chiefs selected Tyson Jackson with the 3rd overall pick. None of us really liked the pick, but its not like we would have been that much better today had we drafted Marc Sanchez.

In 2010 we took Eric Berry with the 5th pick, a selection we all really like. Frankly, there were no QBs in the early rounds for Pioli to entertain.

In 2011, we took Baldwin with pick 26. Again, there wasn't really a Quarterback on the board at 21 or 26 for Pioli to entertain. Andy Dalton when in the second round that year. He looks promising, but he might not be the answer either.

Pioli deserves criticism, but he got unlucky with his decision to bring in Matt Cassel. Other than that, he has not had the opportunity to draft a QBOTF.

My anger towards Pioli is limited to his inability to hire a quality head coach. Scott might need to check his ego at the door of he wants to find a coach who can actually lead this team to greatness.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Pioli = Berry and nothing else.

[T-post Tom]

Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning

Thomas Dimitroff must hack off Pioli so bad.

Dimitroff is a lean, sexy guy with great hair...

So what qualities make him sexy to you? Besides his locks & the svelte figure?

[DJ's left nut]

What home-grown depth?

Arenas? Jalil Brown? Studebaker? Elam? Eechus?

Pioli has done nothing here. He has drafted 2 quality young players in Berry (duh) and Houston. Otherwise all he has done is take the best players from the Herm era, who are still the best players on his team, and do jack shit with them.

No, Dimitroff and Pioli have not done even remotely similar things.

[mcaj22]

i would take Andy Dalton 10 times out of 10 over Jon invisible Baldwin and its not even close

[Rasputin]

I'm even envious of Falcons owner Arthur Blank. He shows he cares about his team and fans. He is a classy guy.

[DJ's left nut]

Here's an interesting exercise:

Look at how much talent Pioli has lost from a roster that would lose to "53 guys off the street".

Tony Gonzalez
Brian Waters
Wade Smith
Jason Babin
Brandon Carr
Bernard Pollard
Connor Barth

That's seven high-quality starters. Most of whom have been replaced by guys that are either lateral moves or clear downgrades. And that's not even getting into guys like McBride who have not been stars but solid players (that are definitely better than a lot of guys on this roster).

Pioli's done nothing here. He's done absolutely ****ing nothing. Without the players that Herm and crew acquired for him, he wouldn't have 10 wins total by now. The Chiefs have been that absolute worst organization in football since he took over.

[mcaj22]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Here's an interesting exercise:

Look at how much talent Pioli has lost from a roster that would lose to "53 guys off the street".

Tony Gonzalez
Brian Waters
Wade Smith
Jason Babin
Brandon Carr
Bernard Pollard
Connor Barth

That's seven high-quality starters. Most of whom have been replaced by guys that are either lateral moves or clear downgrades. And that's not even getting into guys like McBride who have not been stars but solid players (that are definitely better than a lot of guys on this roster).

Pioli's done nothing here. He's done absolutely ****ing nothing. Without the players that Herm and crew acquired for him, he wouldn't have 10 wins total by now. The Chiefs have been that absolute worst organization in football since he took over.

all of those guys listed went to play for winning franchises that are legit playoff potential every season besides Barth (even thought that team is showing some competitive potential for being young and willingness to clean house when the staff sucks)