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Old 08-31-2010, 10:54 PM   #1
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Wasn't the trailer in Grindhouse just a fake trailer and somebody said it would make a good movie so they made it?
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Old 08-31-2010, 10:55 PM   #2
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Wasn't the trailer in Grindhouse just a fake trailer and somebody said it would make a good movie so they made it?
Probably, but I don't know for sure.
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Old 08-31-2010, 11:20 PM   #3
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Probably, but I don't know for sure.
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Yes, that's exactly what it was.
No, Machete was a trailer for Grindhouse (which was financed for next to nothing).

It was a homage to the X, XX and XXX films of the 70's (complete with film distortion and flickers). It was done for little to no money (back end for everyone) and although the trailers were AWESOME, no one set out to create the trailers with an intent to make them 90 minute films.

Rob Zombie has been trying to come up with a way to make "Werewolf Women of the SS" into a feature, as has Eli Roth and "Thanksgiving".

The problem with that it's akin to making a short SNL skit into a movie: It was originally conceived in short form, so how do you make it cool and relevant in long form?

The short answer is that many have tried but few have succeeded.
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Old 08-31-2010, 11:23 PM   #4
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No, Machete was a trailer for Grindhouse (which was financed for next to nothing).

It was a homage to the X, XX and XXX films of the 70's (complete with film distortion and flickers). It was done for little to no money (back end for everyone) and although the trailers were AWESOME, no one set out to create the trailers with an intent to make them 90 minute films.

Rob Zombie has been trying to come up with a way to make WereWomen of the SS into a feature, as has Eli Roth and "Thanksgiving".

The problem with that is akin to making a short SNL skit into a movie: It was originally conceived in short form, so how do you make it cool and relevant in long form?

The short answer is that many have tried but few have succeeded.
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Old 08-31-2010, 11:25 PM   #5
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Dude, I haven't seen him since 2002 but I'd assume he's still involved.

He's a good guy.
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Old 08-31-2010, 11:41 PM   #6
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Dude, I haven't seen him since 2002 but I'd assume he's still involved.

He's a good guy.
Right on. He was one of the best boxers in San Quinton Prison, so I hear.
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Old 09-01-2010, 07:58 AM   #7
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Dude, I haven't seen him since 2002 but I'd assume he's still involved.

He's a good guy.
I love that dude. Glad to see him headlining movies now.
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Old 08-31-2010, 11:34 PM   #8
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No, Machete was a trailer for Grindhouse (which was financed for next to nothing).

It was a homage to the X, XX and XXX films of the 70's (complete with film distortion and flickers). It was done for little to no money (back end for everyone) and although the trailers were AWESOME, no one set out to create the trailers with an intent to make them 90 minute films.
Machete was NOT a trailer for Grindhouse. It was a fake trailer for a fake movie that came between the two actual films. I went to the theater and saw it.

It created enough buzz, that they actually made the movie.

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Old 09-01-2010, 10:23 AM   #9
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Machete was NOT a trailer for Grindhouse. It was a fake trailer for a fake movie that came between the two actual films. I went to the theater and saw it.

It created enough buzz, that they actually made the movie.
The entire thing was a concept film to feel like the 70's. In the theaters, it was shown as one feature length film (Planet Terror & Death Proof were the features, with Thanksgiving, Machete and Were Women of the SS as "trailer" for films that didn't exist).

When the DVD was initially released, it was released in its entirety, more than 3 hours long. The premium cable channels generally have shown one film or the other (Planet Terror or Death Proof).

The entire project was a gigantic flop. It cost more than $67 million to make, yet earned only $25 million worldwide at the box office.

"Machete" was independently financed for less than $20 million, with all of the actors taking back end participation. Out of all the Grindhouse fake trailers, it has the best chance of being successful because of the backstory. The others will be far more difficult to produce.
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Old 09-01-2010, 10:25 AM   #10
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The entire thing was a concept film to feel like the 70's. In the theaters, it was shown as one feature length film (Planet Terror & Death Proof were the features, with Thanksgiving, Machete and Were Women of the SS as "trailer" for films that didn't exist).

When the DVD was initially released, it was released in its entirety, more than 3 hours long. The premium cable channels generally have shown one film or the other (Planet Terror or Death Proof).

The entire project was a gigantic flop. It cost more than $67 million to make, yet earned only $25 million worldwide at the box office.

"Machete" was independently financed for less than $20 million, with all of the actors taking back end participation. Out of all the Grindhouse fake trailers, it has the best chance of being successful because of the backstory. The others will be far more difficult to produce.
Grindhouse sucked ass; I couldn't make it through one hour. Sadness.
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Old 09-01-2010, 10:32 AM   #11
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Grindhouse sucked ass; I couldn't make it through one hour. Sadness.
I guess this is why it flopped at the box office.

Man, I loved it! Planet Terror was awesome. Death Proof was too talky of course, because it's Quintin and Quintin loves to hear himself speak. And the trailers were awesome.
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Do you like QT movies? I loved it. To each his own, though.
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The entire thing was a concept film to feel like the 70's. In the theaters, it was shown as one feature length film (Planet Terror & Death Proof were the features, with Thanksgiving, Machete and Were Women of the SS as "trailer" for films that didn't exist).

When the DVD was initially released, it was released in its entirety, more than 3 hours long. The premium cable channels generally have shown one film or the other (Planet Terror or Death Proof).

The entire project was a gigantic flop. It cost more than $67 million to make, yet earned only $25 million worldwide at the box office.

"Machete" was independently financed for less than $20 million, with all of the actors taking back end participation. Out of all the Grindhouse fake trailers, it has the best chance of being successful because of the backstory. The others will be far more difficult to produce.
Maybe I'm missing something here. I saw Grindhouse. I saw the fake trailers. KcM is stating that Machete was originally a fake trailer. I thought it was as well.
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Old 09-01-2010, 10:35 AM   #14
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Maybe I'm missing something here. I saw Grindhouse. I saw the fake trailers. KcM is stating that Machete was originally a fake trailer. I thought it was as well.
Yeah, it was a fake trailer, along with WereWomen and Thanksgiving.

I don't have any idea why he felt the need to point out that it was fake, considering everyone that saw the film in its entirety knew they were fake trailers and thus part of the entire film called "Grindhouse".

"Fake" really isn't the correct terminology. They were trailers created by filmmakers to give Grindhouse the full effect of seeing a film in the 70's.

If anything, WereWomen (at 8 minutes long) qualifies as a short film and not a faux trailer.

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Maybe I'm missing something here. I saw Grindhouse. I saw the fake trailers. KcM is stating that Machete was originally a fake trailer. I thought it was as well.
It was. The original trailer played before the first movie "Planet Terror" The rest of them played between the two films.


Heres the original trailer. Cracks me up everytime.


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