Chiefs on verge of a deal with Andy Reid (merged)

[Carlota69]

I just saw it on his Facebook status...

UPDATE:

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan

Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter

Update from @mortreport: Cards visit with Andy Reid is off, Chiefs have not scheduled other visits with candidates, hoping to wrap deal Fri.

[DeezNutz]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I do as well. And not because they're afraid to draft a QB, but because there isn't a QB worthy of the top spot.

I really don't like to engage in this type of conversation until after The Combines but I think it's a strong possibility that the Chiefs choose something other than a QB at the #1 overall spot. A trade, a different position, etc. wouldn't shock me at all on January 3, 2013.

That, of course, is subject to change after the Combines.

We've heard what the talking heads have to say about the QB class, but I have no read on how scouts and personnel people are breaking it down.

The crux is that this draft class, as a whole, looks like it's going to be deep but not particularly top heavy. The QB class is deep, too, so it's entirely possible that the new HC/GM will believe that the guy he could reasonably get at the top of round 2 would be similar to the guy whom he could get at 1/1.

I expect a vet to be brought in, in addition to a QB in either round 1 or 2.

[ModSocks]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Right. But so far, there's no indication that Reid is demanding personnel control.

Either way, I've heard from a good source that they're targeting Arians as their #1 guy.

Well, Arians thus far has been the ONLY guy that's been linked to them. But, word is that they want a GM first, and if that GM is onboard with Arians, then he will be the guy they pursue.

[Fansy the Famous Bard]

Originally Posted by Dave

That has nothing to do with what I'm referring to.

Most his replies are constructed that way.

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Ha...good luck with that one, Bill's kid.

If Horton gets passed over as HC, someone will hire him to be the top dog. Hell, Buffalo would be a good fit, presuming they don't go hard after Lovie. SD might be looking for a different type of coach as well; Horton might be a nice fit there to instill a more aggressive attitude after such a laid back rube in Norv.

Nah, I can't see any way Bidwell is able to keep Horton, if for no other reason than Horton is going to want to interview elsewhere and Reid is going to want to get his staff in place and is not going to want to wait for the owner's hand-picked DC to make up his mind.

I wouldn't rule out Chicago either.

[BradBigglestein]

If Andy Reid is your coach, he will make it his #1 priority to get your offensive line fixed, and find your team a QB. Andy Reid doesn't mess around in those two areas.

The coaching staff he assembled this year was a joke, but when he first came here, he had one of the best coaching staffs in the NFL. All the coaches that came from his staff: Leslie Frazier, Brad Childress, John Harbaugh, Pat Shurmur, Steve Spagnuolo, etc. I'm sure in a fresh situation, he'd put a good staff together. Also, he picked Jim Johnson who was a great coordinator, and good position coaches.

[Rasputin]

Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts

The Iron Sheik must be pissed Reid is no longer in Philly.

That sounds like the Iron Sheik would say
NSFW!!!

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

Once again, because you are a Chiefs fan, you can sit there and call out all of our holes, but i dont believe for a second that a 4-12 football team is in much better shape than a 2-16 team.

No, the Cardinals aren't much closer to competing. You of all people know that the QB makes the biggest difference, and we are in a better spot to land the top prospect.

You can't sit there and shrug off the Cardinal's needs and say they are an easy fix while saying our needs are difficult to fix, when in fact, they are just as easy to fill.

Really? So finding three starting offensive lineman is the same as finding three starting defensive lineman? Finding a RB or two late in the draft is the same as finding a #1 and #2 receiver? In which universe do you live?

Arizona can easily fill their offensive line and running back holes in one offseason. Whether it's Kolb or a second rounder or Alex Smith or Joe Flacco, the Cards are poised to reach the playoffs much more quickly than the Chiefs, which have holes everywhere along with a lack of depth.

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Really? So finding three starting offensive lineman is the same as finding three starting defensive lineman? Finding a RB or two late in the draft is the same as finding a #1 and #2 receiver? In which universe do you live?

Arizona can easily fill their offensive line and running back holes in one offseason. Whether it's Kolb or a second rounder or Alex Smith or Joe Flacco, the Cards are poised to reach the playoffs much more quickly than the Chiefs, which have holes everywhere along with a lack of depth.

You really think it'd be an easy road in the NFC West? You have to assume that whichever team finishes 2nd in that division is going to be a wildcard. San Francisco and Seattle own that division right now.

[ModSocks]

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

We've heard what the talking heads have to say about the QB class, but I have no read on how scouts and personnel people are breaking it down.

The crux is that this draft class, as a whole, looks like it's going to be deep but not particularly top heavy. The QB class is deep, too, so it's entirely possible that the new HC/GM will believe that the guy he could reasonably get at the top of round 2 would be similar to the guy whom he could get at 1/1.

I expect a vet to be brought in, in addition to a QB in either round 1 or 2.

It's going to be a 1st round QB. To think otherwise, is overthinking it. We've all been around long enough to know how this shit works. Between now and the next few months, a Qb prospect WILL rise up the boards. It happens every year.

Everyone wants to talk about how Clark wants to put butts in the seats.

Best way to do it? Shiny new 1st round QB.

Biggest hole on the team? QB

Most important position on a team? QB.

Highest valued position in the draft? Qb.

New HC? new QB...

I mean....this isn't rocket science, people.

[Straight, No Chaser]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Ha...good luck with that one, Bill's kid.

If Horton gets passed over as HC, someone will hire him to be the top dog. Hell, Buffalo would be a good fit, presuming they don't go hard after Lovie. SD might be looking for a different type of coach as well; Horton might be a nice fit there to instill a more aggressive attitude after such a laid back rube in Norv.

Nah, I can't see any way Bidwell is able to keep Horton, if for no other reason than Horton is going to want to interview elsewhere and Reid is going to want to get his staff in place and is not going to want to wait for the owner's hand-picked DC to make up his mind.

I see Horton getting some interest, in part because of the Rooney rule, but am doubtful he gets an offer this year. The Cards D started out on fire but it ended badly for them overall this year; players' attitudes were toxic the last couple of weeks.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

We've heard what the talking heads have to say about the QB class, but I have no read on how scouts and personnel people are breaking it down.

The crux is that this draft class, as a whole, looks like it's going to be deep but not particularly top heavy. The QB class is deep, too, so it's entirely possible that the new HC/GM will believe that the guy he could reasonably get at the top of round 2 would be similar to the guy whom he could get at 1/1.

I expect a vet to be brought in, in addition to a QB in either round 1 or 2.

I can't recall a year in which the QB position was in such a state of flux as this draft year appears to be at this point.

It seems like there's been a clear cut #1 guy each year but this year, it's just a puzzle. No one stands above the other players and no one particularly stands out, period, especially when compared to 2009 (Stafford), 2010 (Bradford), 2011 (Cam Newton) and 2012 (Luck & RGIII).

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Really? So finding three starting offensive lineman is the same as finding three starting defensive lineman? Finding a RB or two late in the draft is the same as finding a #1 and #2 receiver? In which universe do you live?

Arizona can easily fill their offensive line and running back holes in one offseason. Whether it's Kolb or a second rounder or Alex Smith or Joe Flacco, the Cards are poised to reach the playoffs much more quickly than the Chiefs, which have holes everywhere along with a lack of depth.

This is a really good point.

DL, CB and WR are historically tougher positions to fill.

RB's are a dime-a-dozen. Don't have to use high picks on OL either.

[-King-]

Originally Posted by Pestilence

Bob Fescoe ‏@bobfescoe

If falcons lose their pro personnel director to JAX look for Pioli to possibly b reunited w his buddy Dimitrioff in ATL. makes sense 2 me

Once again, we find ourselves rooting for Jacksonville.

[DeezNutz]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

It's going to be a 1st round QB. To think otherwise, is overthinking it. We've all been around long enough to know how this shit works. Between now and the next few months, a Qb prospect WILL rise up the boards. It happens every year.

Everyone wants to talk about how Clark wants to put butts in the seats.

Best way to do it? Shiny new 1st round QB.

Biggest hole on the team? QB

Most important position on a team? QB.

Highest valued position in the draft? Qb.

New HC? new QB...

I mean....this isn't rocket science, people.

While this board would melt the **** down, hiring a big-name coach and acquiring a QB whom the general public knows, like a Flacco (should he come available), will put asses in the seats.

You think the average fan knows who Geno Smith is? I don't. Perhaps the name, but they don't know shit about the player, and they've never seen him play.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Pestilence

You really think it'd be an easy road in the NFC West? You have to assume that whichever team finishes 2nd in that division is going to be a wildcard. San Francisco and Seattle own that division right now.

I'm looking more in terms of filling holes and competing for a WC as opposed to filling holes and competing for the division.

The Chiefs have far more holes to fill than Arizona, IMO.