Rick Gosselin's mock draft.

[shakesthecat]

Sorry if this is a repost.
All in all, I think I'd rather trade down, and take Pollack, Spears, or Roth.

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcont...ockdraft1.html

No., team Player Pos. School
1. San Francisco Aaron Rodgers QB California
2. Miami Ronnie Brown HB Auburn
3. Cleveland Braylon Edwards WR Michigan
4. Chicago Carnell Williams HB Auburn
5. Tampa Bay Alex Smith QB Utah
6. Tennessee Antrel Rolle CB Miami
7. Minnesota Mark Clayton WR Oklahoma
8. Arizona Cedric Benson HB Texas
9. Washington Adam Jones CB West Virginia
10. Detroit Derrick Johnson OLB Texas
11. Dallas Demarcus Ware OLB Troy
12. San Diego Erasmus James DE Wisconsin
13. Houston Shawne Merriman DE Maryland
14. Carolina Carlos Rogers CB Auburn
15. Kansas City Troy Williamson WR South Carolina
16. New Orleans Shaun Cody DT Southern California
17. Cincinnati Thomas Davis S Georgia
18. Minnesota Mike Williams WR Southern California
19. St. Louis Jammal Brown OT Oklahoma
20. Dallas Marcus Spears DE LSU
21. Jacksonville David Pollack DE Georgia
22. Baltimore Travis Johnson DT Florida State
23. Seattle Luis Castillo DT Northwestern
24. Green Bay Matt Roth DE Iowa
25. Denver Fabian Washington CB Nebraska
26. N.Y. Jets Alex Barron OT Florida State
27. Atlanta Roddy White WR Alabama-Birmingham
28. San Diego Khalif Barnes OT Washington
29. Indianapolis Brodney Pool S Oklahoma
30. Pittsburgh Marcus Johnson OT Mississippi
31. Philadelphia Heath Miller TE Virginia
32. New England Justin Miller CB Clemson

[BigChiefFan]

Originally Posted by nmt1

In this mock, Rolle and Rogers are already picked. What CB that we could draft at 15 after those two guys is going to come in and start? Same for LB. Which LB after Johnson is going to come in and start immediately?
How do you know Williamson is a reach? I've read many WR evaluations that have him listed third, ahead of Mike Williams. Does that mean Mike Williams is a reach too?

How do you know he isn't a reach? That's an absurd question because it's all based on OPINION, just like yours. Again, if you'll actually read what I said the first time, I said going after a WR in the first is foolish because of our glaring holes at CB, LB, and DE. If those guys aren't there, we could take a DE or trade down.


Also, I have watched Williamson play, have you? He's very quick, but is definitely a reach at 15. He's not the 15th best player in the country. Not even close. He is inexperienced and would be a joke to take at 15. Maybe you should follow the games before calling somebody out that actually follows football. Williamson at 15 is hysterical.

[the Talking Can]

If we pick Rodgers or trade up for DJ this place will be ecstatic...

[ChiefsCountry]

I don't see how Carolina needs a CB. They signed Lucas in the off season, and already have Gamble and Manning.

[ChiefsFanatic]

Originally Posted by HemiEd

I am no draft guru but how could we take Troy Williamson WR South Carolina ahead of Mike Williams from USC? Huh?

If we took Williamson ahead of Cody from USC, I would implode.

[nmt1]

Originally Posted by BigChiefFan

How do you know he isn't a reach? That's an absurd question because it's all based on OPINION, just like yours. Again, if you'll actually read what I said the first time, I said going after a WR in the first is foolish because of our glaring holes at CB, LB, and DE. If those guys aren't there, we could take a DE or trade down.


Also, I have watched Williamson play, have you? He's very quick, but is definitely a reach at 15. He's not the 15th best player in the country. Not even close. He is inexperienced and would be a joke to take at 15. Maybe you should follow the games before calling somebody out that actually follows football. Williamson at 15 is hysterical.

I did read what you said hence my question, which you answered. It's you're opinion. Do you care to address my other questions which are directed at the second part of your statement? We do have holes at those positions but tell me who we can draft, according to this mock, that will come in and fill those holes immediately?
Foxsports has Williamson rated as the 16th best player in the draft: here. They're opinion is every bit as valid as yours if not moreso.
If you think drafting Williamson at 15 is hysterical, I hope you'll laugh if we pick him.

Originally Posted by BigChiefFan

Maybe you should follow the games before calling somebody out that actually follows football.

We have our first confirmed NFL scout, everybody. Tell me, where do you have Williamson ranked on your WR board? What are his strengths and weaknesses? Did you go to his pro day?
Get over yourself, moron.

[nmt1]

Originally Posted by the Talking Can

If we pick Rodgers or trade up for DJ this place will be ecstatic...

No it won't. It'll be melting over Carl trading away too many draft picks.

[Eleazar]

Originally Posted by nmt1

We have our first confirmed NFL scout, everybody. Tell me, where do you have Williamson ranked on your WR board? What are his strengths and weaknesses? Did you go to his pro day?
Get over yourself, moron.

Reminds me of whoever it was here who used to say your opinion didn't matter if you never played high school football.

"Bet you I can throw a football over those mountains..."

[Eleazar]

Originally Posted by the Talking Can

If we pick Rodgers or trade up for DJ this place will be ecstatic...

Aaron Rodgers??

[nmt1]

Originally Posted by BigChiefFan

Also, I have watched Williamson play, have you? He's very quick, but is definitely a reach at 15. He's not the 15th best player in the country. Not even close. He is inexperienced and would be a joke to take at 15. Maybe you should follow the games before calling somebody out that actually follows football. Williamson at 15 is hysterical.

Also thought you'd like to see this: CNNSI.
Just in case you don't click on the link, they have Williamson rated 2nd behing Braylon Edwards. He and Edwards are the only WR's who score above 4 in their rating system.

[Bowser]

Originally Posted by nmt1

No it won't. It'll be melting over Carl trading away too many draft picks.

You're a glass is half empty kind of guy, aren'tcha?

[BigChiefFan]

Originally Posted by nmt1

I did read what you said hence my question, which you answered. It's you're opinion. Do you care to address my other questions which are directed at the second part of your statement? We do have holes at those positions but tell me who we can draft, according to this mock, that will come in and fill those holes immediately?
Foxsports has Williamson rated as the 16th best player in the draft: here. They're opinion is every bit as valid as yours if not moreso.
If you think drafting Williamson at 15 is hysterical, I hope you'll laugh if we pick him.


We have our first confirmed NFL scout, everybody. Tell me, where do you have Williamson ranked on your WR board? What are his strengths and weaknesses? Did you go to his pro day?
Get over yourself, moron.

You know what? **** off! Okay? I'm really tired of you thinking you know better than everybody else and attempting to belittle those that disagree with you. You just had to attempt to discredit my post, by throwing your arrogant, superior(in your mind) horseshit around because somebdy actually follows football, so it intimidates you and you can't deal. I ddin't know FX sports was the only ****ing source that can make a PREDICTION. Just put me on ignore or avoid my posts because your ass-kissing of everything Chiefs and holier than thou attitude sucks. Having a objective conversation with you is impossible. so kiss my ass.

[nmt1]

Originally Posted by Bowser

You're a glass is half empty kind of guy, aren'tcha?

Not me. If we traded up for one of those guys I'd be happy. If we stayed at 15 and picked Williamson I'd be happy, if we traded down and got more picks I'd be happy.
The collective opinion of the Chiefs on this board is "glass all empty."

[shaneo69]

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

I don't see how Carolina needs a CB. They signed Lucas in the off season, and already have Gamble and Manning.

Eggzactly. No fuggin way Carolina picks a CB here.

And there's no fuggin way Mike Williams lasts until 18.

Sorry Gosselin worshipers. I don't buy the hype.

[Bowser]

Originally Posted by shaneo69

Eggzactly. No fuggin way Carolina picks a CB here.

And there's no fuggin way Mike Williams lasts until 18.

Sorry Gosselin worshipers. I don't buy the hype.

I would agree with you, but just the fact that he actually predicted us taking Larry Johnson a couple of years back makes me not want to dismiss him so quickly......

[nmt1]

Originally Posted by BigChiefFan

You know what? **** off! Okay? I'm really tired of you thinking you know better than everybody else and attempting to belittle those that disagree with you. You just had to attempt to discredit my post, by throwing your arrogant, superior(in your mind) horseshit around because somebdy actually follows football, so it intimidates you and you can't deal. I ddin't know FX sports was the only ****ing source that can make a PREDICTION. Just put me on ignore or avoid my posts because your ass-kissing of everything Chiefs and holier than thou attitude sucks. Having a objective conversation with you is impossible. so kiss my ass.

Take a chill pill dude. Sorry for calling you a moron. I don't know any better than anyone else. That attitude came from you. I said I'd like the Williamson pick and you said it would be laughable if anyone picked him at 15. I gave you some opinions of others who don't agree.
You don't want to have an objective conversation. I asked you a couple of questions about why you thought Williamson was a reach and about who you thought would come in and start immediately. You couldn't handle it and told me I should try following football. Who's the one with the holier than thou attitude?
I expect someone to back up what they say. Sorry that you can't handle that.