I like the Poe pick

[qabbaan]

Just want to be the one who was right.

[Shox]

I predicted Poe would be the pick some time ago, but I'm not sure I like it.

The one think that makes me think he could turn it on, is Romeo. This guy does know defense and especially defensive lineman. So he has all the tools and now he has one the top 2 or 3 coaches to teach him.

On the negative, all the stuff already said. How can a guy with that much strenght and speed not make more plays against the competition he was going against. Even if he was poorly coached his strength and speed alone should have produced more plays.

[Saul Good]

Originally Posted by Ultra Peanut

He's used to being triple-teamed, if that's any consolation.

So is Frankie's mom, but I wouldn't draft her at #11, either.

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by Saul Good

So is Frankie's mom, but I wouldn't draft her at #11, either.

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[Mr. Arrowhead]

If crennel cant make him into a decent NT, then hes pretty much ****ed

[philfree]

Originally Posted by milkman

I was going to bring up Powe in response to Bane.

When we all wanted Powe so early in the draft and kept freaking when we passed on him round after round, we learned that Scott Pioli has a far better feel for where guys fit in the draft than we do.
I'm not one who blindly puts my faith in the staff, but if they felt that he wasn't going to last much beyond the 11th pick, I'm inclined to believe them.

Yes.

Pioli and RC have a pretty good track record drafting D linemen too so there is that.

[Jawshco]

This an impossible pick to grade until we see him play. He definitely is the best.player available in the draft in terms of size and strength to push the line. The trouble is that we've never seen Poe play the way Crennel believes that he can. I trust RAC, so while this looks like a questionable pick on the surface no one knows more about NT's than him. RAC is certainly beginning his career as our HC with a high risk move, but I'm definitely rooting for him to succeed. I really liked the fact that RAC said he thought Poe was the top DT before the combine- so he's not just looking at Poe as a combine hero.

Question: we know our DE's had good stats against the rush, but our D was one of the worst D's against rush overall. So where was the weak link? Was it only the DT spot? I'm curious.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by Jawshco

This an impossible pick to grade until we see him play. He definitely is the best.player available in the draft in terms of size and strength to push the line. The trouble is that we've never seen Poe play the way Crennel believes that he can. I trust RAC, so while this looks like a questionable pick on the surface no one knows more about NT's than him. RAC is certainly beginning his career as our HC with a high risk move, but I'm definitely rooting for him to succeed. I really liked the fact that RAC said he thought Poe was the top DT before the combine- so he's not just looking at Poe as a combine hero.

Question: we know our DE's had good stats against the rush, but our D was one of the worst D's against rush overall. So where was the weak link? Was it only the DT spot? I'm curious.

Here's the problem with the overall rush defense ranking.

In total yards, they were rated 26th, but in YPA, they were rated in the upper half of the league.

That tells you that teams were often playing with a lead against the Chiefs, thus running the ball more, so the total number of yards is somewhat misleading.

The YPA atempt is a more telling stat to how this unit actually performed.

[philfree]

Originally Posted by Jawshco

This an impossible pick to grade until we see him play. He definitely is the best.player available in the draft in terms of size and strength to push the line. The trouble is that we've never seen Poe play the way Crennel believes that he can. I trust RAC, so while this looks like a questionable pick on the surface no one knows more about NT's than him. RAC is certainly beginning his career as our HC with a high risk move, but I'm definitely rooting for him to succeed. I really liked the fact that RAC said he thought Poe was the top DT before the combine- so he's not just looking at Poe as a combine hero.

Question: we know our DE's had good stats against the rush, but our D was one of the worst D's against rush overall. So where was the weak link? Was it only the DT spot? I'm curious.

I think Romeo explained part of it when he talked about getting gouged by the running game when we were in sub packages.

[whoman69]

Originally Posted by milkman

Here's the problem with the overall rush defense ranking.

In total yards, they were rated 26th, but in YPA, they were rated in the upper half of the league.

That tells you that teams were often playing with a lead against the Chiefs, thus running the ball more, so the total number of yards is somewhat misleading.

The YPA atempt is a more telling stat to how this unit actually performed.

Romeo said that one of the main reasons he liked Poe was that other teams tended to run against the Chiefs in their sub packages. Having someone that can get some push when its a pass play and hold their ground when its a run will help.

[Jawshco]

Originally Posted by whoman69

Romeo said that one of the main reasons he liked Poe was that other teams tended to run against the Chiefs in their sub packages. Having someone that can get some push when its a pass play and hold their ground when its a run will help.

If it works out like that with Poe getting push and Berry's back in action- I can't see any reason we won't be at least a top 10 defense this year. If we don't have to rely on Cassel to score a ton of points. We'll win a couple more games on that alone. Probably still pretty mediocre overall, but certainly not horrible.

[Chief3188]

Originally Posted by sedated

Wilfork was productive in college. Siavii was a physical specimen. Which do you think Poe resembles most?


(we passed on Terrence Cody too)

Wilfork had also never played any 2 gap and was not asked to play the entire game nor every position on the line like Poe was. We all might as well at least give the kid a chance.

[RUSH]

Pat Kirwan ‏ @PatKirwanCBS

Still talkin w/Pioli- He thinks Dontari Poe can play anywhere in the front and the club will experiment with him like Ngata in BLT.

[Direckshun]

Hmmm....

I trust Crennel.

[Chiefaholic]

In this system the NT isn't going to put up stats that will land his ass on Sportscenter on a Sunday evening. However, if adding Poe frees up our LB's to make plays, rather than being on the receiving end of a guard/FB blocking for a huge gain, then he's accomplished the goal we drafted him for. His job is to eat up blocks and hold his ground, not much more..

[philfree]

Pick'in up Powe Poe's
And putting them in your pocket

Pick'in up Powe Poe's
And putting them in your pocket

Pick'in up Powe Poe's
And putting them in your pocket

Way down younder in the Poe Powe patch