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Old 01-24-2013, 08:42 AM   #1
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Yep, I agree. Carr was my favorite player. It still really pisses me off when I think about him. ***** should have been fired for how he handled that without even considering all the other bullshit.

How do you let the most ascending young defensive player in the NFL walk away?
Odd that a 2nd CB would your favorite player but to each his own.

I totally agree with you on Carr. After Matt Cassel, one of Pioli's biggest mistakes.
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Old 01-24-2013, 09:17 AM   #2
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Odd that a 2nd CB would your favorite player but to each his own.

I totally agree with you on Carr. After Matt Cassel, one of *****'s biggest mistakes.
I always thought he was better than Flowers. I felt like they should have switched positions. Flowers is more of a play maker but, Carr was a cover corner. It's like the game Lloyd came to town leading the league in receiving and Carr didn't let him have a catch. He was very underrated the whole time he was in KC imo. Even after he left, There were actually a lot of people who felt like Routt would be his equal.
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Old 01-24-2013, 09:28 AM   #3
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I always thought he was better than Flowers. I felt like they should have switched positions. Flowers is more of a play maker but, Carr was a cover corner. It's like the game Lloyd came to town leading the league in receiving and Carr didn't let him have a catch. He was very underrated the whole time he was in KC imo. Even after he left, There were actually a lot of people who felt like Routt would be his equal.
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Old 01-24-2013, 11:35 AM   #4
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I always thought he was better than Flowers. I felt like they should have switched positions. Flowers is more of a play maker but, Carr was a cover corner. It's like the game Lloyd came to town leading the league in receiving and Carr didn't let him have a catch. He was very underrated the whole time he was in KC imo. Even after he left, There were actually a lot of people who felt like Routt would be his equal.
Carr was more physically talented and always had a much bigger upside.

Flowers was the guy that was solid and dependable but not....EXCEPTIONAL.

Carr has that ability.

I think it very much mirrors the Hasty/Carter dynamic.

Unfortunately Fat Scott wasn't impressed with Carr's "personality."
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Old 01-24-2013, 11:37 AM   #5
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Even after he left, There were actually a lot of people who felt like Routt would be his equal.
His equal? Nah. Good enough to fill the hole? Yah.
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Flowers was the guy that was solid and dependable but not....EXCEPTIONAL.
What?

Flowers is, AT THE VERY LEAST, a top 10 CB on anyone's list. How is that not exceptional?
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What?

Flowers is, AT THE VERY LEAST, a top 10 CB on anyone's list. How is that not exceptional?
As far as his talent - definitely not.

His performance should have been recognized as top 10...
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Makes perfect sense for the Jets to trade him. They need a major rebuild. They are by no means "a piece or two" away from being competitive.

They also have serious salary cap woes. Trading Revis would probably afford salary cap relief and get them some decent draft pick(s) to make headway on rebuilding. Revis is a phenomenal talent, but you don't rebuild around a CB.
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Makes perfect sense for the Jets to trade him.
Problem is, it makes little sense for anyone else to trade for him. IIRC, he has a player option the year after next, and he WILL opt out and get paid bigtime in free agency.
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