Pastor refuses to tip "I give GOD 10% why do you get 18%"

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by Rain Man

I had a realization last year that since I don't drink I don't tip as much. So if I'm in a sports bar or pub-type restaurant and I order the ribs, salad, and soda, I'm a lower-dollar tipper than the guy at the next table who ordered the ribs, salad, and two beers, even if we tip the same percentage. But I'm probably just as much work.

So I'll ask the people with restaurant experience. Do I get sneered at if I'm the 10 percent that doesn't order alcohol? Am I perceived to be a "cheap tipper" even though I tip the same amount?

I'd honestly never thought about this, but it really started bothering me. I've even started upgrading my tips if I'm in a place where most people are drinking alcohol.

nah water drinkers don't bother me one bit...and I also don't think of water drinkers as cheap, either

but if you watch a football game for 3 hours and I refill your drink 5-10 times...you should probably tip on bill + an hourly rate in all honesty...

I'll sit at BW3 for a Chiefs game and drink water and if my bill is $15 I'll usually leave $10 if I'm there for the whole game since I took an entire table out of someone's section...and even then they probably still aren't making what they deserve.

We'd go to our bar, drink $15 $1 beers and eat once...have a $25 bill and our hot waitress would wait on us the whole time (5+ hours on football Sunday) and we'd all give her a $20 tip to make it worth her while. They LOVED us there. Of course, it's a townie bar and we were the only football regulars for their Sunday ticket...and lets just say by 6 PM things got a little out of control.

But yeah, you should tip on time seated as well...which some people don't get.

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by Peyton's Princess

nah water drinkers don't bother me one bit...and I also don't think of water drinkers as cheap, either

but if you watch a football game for 3 hours and I refill your drink 5-10 times...you should probably tip on bill + an hourly rate in all honesty...

I'll sit at BW3 for a Chiefs game and drink water and if my bill is $15 I'll usually leave $10 if I'm there for the whole game since I took an entire table out of someone's section...and even then they probably still aren't making what they deserve.

We'd go to our bar, drink $15 $1 beers and eat once...have a $25 bill and our hot waitress would wait on us the whole time (5+ hours on football Sunday) and we'd all give her a $20 tip to make it worth her while. They LOVED us there. Of course, it's a townie bar and we were the only football regulars for their Sunday ticket...and lets just say by 6 PM things got a little out of control.

But yeah, you should tip on time seated as well...which some people don't get.

Seated time was my other realization. The sports bar I went to this year was ludicrously cheap. I'd get an appetizer and a meal and water and it would come to like $12. So I'd give them a $10 tip because I felt guilty for sitting there for three hours.

I really want to give this restaurant some free consulting. They have no expensive menu items to bring the average bill up, and they don't serve any desserts, and they do unlimited chips and salsa if you buy it for $4. I go in there and as a non-drinker it's almost impossible for me to spend more than $15. My wife says they don't care about me because they're more interested in selling booze, but I still think they're leaving a lot of money on the table by having a poorly planned food menu.

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by Rain Man

Seated time was my other realization. The sports bar I went to this year was ludicrously cheap. I'd get an appetizer and a meal and water and it would come to like $12. So I'd give them a $10 tip because I felt guilty for sitting there for three hours.

I really want to give this restaurant some free consulting. They have no expensive menu items to bring the average bill up, and they don't serve any desserts, and they do unlimited chips and salsa if you buy it for $4. I go in there and as a non-drinker it's almost impossible for me to spend more than $15. My wife says they don't care about me because they're more interested in selling booze, but I still think they're leaving a lot of money on the table by having a poorly planned food menu.

that's why I said I'd hate to be a server at BWW on a Sunday because it's just awkward...everyone is there to watch football and after they are done eating if they aren't drinking it's just...awkward. You have no idea if they need service, if they need a check, if they want another drink...

but it seems like you have all the principles down pat...regardless of how much you hate them!

I agree with you though...I used to laugh myself all the way to the bank as a server. It is a very, very flawed system.