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Old 04-18-2008, 09:10 AM   Topic Starter
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If Keyshawn and Galloway were worth 2 1st's, why not JA?
If we get anything less than 2 1st's we are getting ripped off. It will take 1 1st just to replace the impact JA currently represents. The other 1st is needed to make up for the risk we are taking by trading a known commodity. The draft can be a crapshoot even in the top 5 (Ryan Simms.)

As a fan I will be greatl disappointed if we trade 1 of our best players for the 19th and 40th picks in the draft.

Just pay the man. He will be great for at least 5 more years. Don't be cheap.

Galloway had injury issues and Johnson had attitude problems and they still commanded 2 #1's. Allen has neither.
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Old 04-18-2008, 09:12 AM   #2
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Why the hell does everyone insist we have to use a 1st round pick to replace JA? He was a 4th rounder. Granted, he played well above his draft position, but that doesn't mean you can't find another guy later in the draft.
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Old 04-18-2008, 09:15 AM   #3
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Why the hell does everyone insist we have to use a 1st round pick to replace JA? He was a 4th rounder. Granted, he played well above his draft position, but that doesn't mean you can't find another guy later in the draft.
And Tom Brady was drafted in the 6th......by your logic if someone offered New England a 4th for him they should take it.
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Old 04-18-2008, 09:22 AM   #4
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And Tom Brady was drafted in the 6th......by your logic if someone offered New England a 4th for him they should take it.
No, dumbass, that's not my logic. I'm saying we don't have to use a 1st round pick we receive in a trade to draft a replacement DE for JA. There's a difference, and if you're too stupid to see it then that's your problem.
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Old 04-18-2008, 09:16 AM   #5
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Because he is one of the best defensive ends in the game. We hit the lottery by getting him in the 4th. This is because he was a gamble based on the school he played at and the competition he faced.

Sometimes Carls gambles pay off. Most of the time they don't.

Chris Long appears to be someone that would be able to replace him. He will be a top 5 pick. Not a 19 pick.
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Old 04-18-2008, 09:17 AM   #6
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We don't have to replace Allen - we're starting over.

We're going to be horrible this year with or without Allen. It's not like we have to plug in a new DE to keep our SB hopes alive.
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Old 04-18-2008, 09:24 AM   #7
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We don't have to replace Allen - we're starting over.

We're going to be horrible this year with or without Allen. It's not like we have to plug in a new DE to keep our SB hopes alive.
Exactly. We can grab a DE later in the draft or even next year. What we have to do this draft is just get the BPA at positions of need (which is everything). We're not drafting to replace any single player, we're drafting to build this team at every position.
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Old 04-18-2008, 09:26 AM   #8
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Exactly. We can grab a DE later in the draft or even next year. What we have to do this draft is just get the BPA at positions of need (which is everything). We're not drafting to replace any single player, we're drafting to build this team at every position.
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Exactly. We can grab a DE later in the draft or even next year. What we have to do this draft is just get the BPA at positions of need (which is everything). We're not drafting to replace any single player, we're drafting to build this team at every position.
We have a player with a great motor, attitude, medical chart who just wants to be paid what he's worth. Just pay him and don't be cheap. Don't give me this BS that we're building for the future. Look at how our recent drafts have gone. They are a big gamble.

Allen will be great for at least 4 more years. This is not a decision for next year only. We need to continue to build and keep what little talent we have. If we trade for a 1st and 2nd, or 2 3rd's we are only netting a 2nd or 2 3rds. That doesn't help us that much considering at 19 if we draft D we will be downgrading our pass rush.
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Old 04-18-2008, 05:04 PM   #10
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We don't have to replace Allen - we're starting over.

We're going to be horrible this year with or without Allen. It's not like we have to plug in a new DE to keep our SB hopes alive.
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Because he is one of the best defensive ends in the game. We hit the lottery by getting him in the 4th. This is because he was a gamble based on the school he played at and the competition he faced.

Sometimes Carls gambles pay off. Most of the time they don't.

Chris Long appears to be someone that would be able to replace him. He will be a top 5 pick. Not a 19 pick.
Very true about Chris Long. But if Chris Long fell to us at #5 and Glenn Dorsey was off the board I would draft Chris Long even if we already signed JA to a long term deal.
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