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Old 11-17-2006, 11:28 PM  
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Post your PS3 and Nintendo Wii reviews here.

So....who has a PS3?? Whats it like?? I plan on perhaps getting a Wii, but i want to see what the people say first.........Whats the scoop??

Worth $600 ???
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Old 11-20-2006, 04:33 PM   #106
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The point was Sony put DVD players in the hands of the MASSES. They are currently doing the exact same thing with Blu-ray. I could give two shits what ****ing brand of DVD player you bought. The time frame of when DVD had mass appeal is the relevant point I'm trying to make. You can fool yourselves all you want, but the PS2 did contribute to DVD sales and introduced the technology to a wider audience. You don't sell FORTY-MILLION consoles and not influence a percentage of those people.

BTW, this isn't about which console is better. Clearly, some of you have already made up your mind. I just wanted to point out that the cost is actually VERY SIMILIAR and that the 360 isn't such a bargain like some would have you believe. Compare apples to apples.
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Old 11-20-2006, 04:36 PM   #107
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I don't think the cost is very similar. PS2 is $200 more. I'm not interested in either HD-DVD or Blu-Ray.
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Old 11-20-2006, 05:00 PM   #108
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I don't think the cost is very similar. PS2 is $200 more. I'm not interested in either HD-DVD or Blu-Ray.
Blu-ray is used in GAMING, too. It gives more storage capacity per disc.

Also, you do know that the PS3 has a 20 gig model, that sales for $499, right? That's only a $100 bucks more... but again, it's not comparing apples to apples. If you added the 20 gig hard -drive to the 360 it would cost you an additional $100. That's the SAME cost, without movie playback...hmmm.
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Old 11-20-2006, 05:17 PM   #109
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PS2 was my first DVD player.

I'll wait to buy a BlueRay player though. I'm sure that prices will come down in the next year or so as the list of movies pile up. I love the idea of having disks with 50 gigs on them and I hope that burners are right around the corner.

For the first time in a long time I am considering the Nintendo option. The Wii looks like a lot of fun.
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Old 11-20-2006, 05:27 PM   #110
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It might be a crock of shit to you, but that doesn't make it fact. More people WATCH MOVIES than play games in general. I wouldn't underestimate the importance of it.

You should also consider the storage data difference between the two mediums. Blu-ray has alot more storage capacity than HD-DVD, that in itself is value added to gamers(more expansive games in years to come). It's also INCLUDED with the Sony console, the same can't be said for Microsoft's 360.

How is more storage capacity a crock of shit when it comes to gaming? Answer: it isn't a crock, in fact, it's very valid point. Storage capacity is very important-I'm surprised to see anyone shrug it off as if it's unimportant.

Have you ever played a computer game??? There is no way in hell they will fill up a game on a blu-ray disk or even get close to halfway... There is not enough cache on a computer to run a 20gig game off of disc let alone the PS3 or any console...

Everything you are spouting is pure fanboy garbage..

If you break it down, people that do not want to pay for hd/blu-ray to watch movies will not have to with the 360.. They will not need to fork out the extra 200 for the drive or buying a PS3...

Storage capacity of what??? The disc, the games will never fill them up.. Movies will never fill them up, outside of extra's or multiple movies on one disc... Big deal...

Get over your fanboy antics...
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Old 11-20-2006, 05:29 PM   #111
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I don't buy that one bit. DVD's didn't take off until the PS2 launched, then voila a new medium, that revolutionized the way the masses watch movies. Blu-Ray and HD-DVD, BOTH are better standards than the typical DVD, it just makes sense that's the next, natural progression for storage medium.

They may come out with a newer medium, but we all know the masses are slow to adopt, that's why Sony brings the new technology to the masses. It's a beneficial procedure that gives them the upper-hand. Had Microsoft INCLUDED the HD-DVD in their console, I would have stated the race would be much closer, but as it is now, all owners of the PS3 will have the new technology-the same can't be said for the 360 owners.

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PS2 is the reason why dvds took off??? ahahahahahah...


By the time Blu-Ray or hd-dvd become the norm there will be new consoles out...
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Old 11-20-2006, 05:36 PM   #112
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The point was Sony put DVD players in the hands of the MASSES. They are currently doing the exact same thing with Blu-ray. I could give two shits what ****ing brand of DVD player you bought. The time frame of when DVD had mass appeal is the relevant point I'm trying to make. You can fool yourselves all you want, but the PS2 did contribute to DVD sales and introduced the technology to a wider audience. You don't sell FORTY-MILLION consoles and not influence a percentage of those people.

BTW, this isn't about which console is better. Clearly, some of you have already made up your mind. I just wanted to point out that the cost is actually VERY SIMILIAR and that the 360 isn't such a bargain like some would have you believe. Compare apples to apples.

Really that article you posted said Toshiba and Time Warner was the clear leader in devolping current technology as we see it... Sad that said PS2 came out after a few years of the DVD switchover started taking off, everything you have stated so far is just your opinion...
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Old 11-20-2006, 07:22 PM   #113
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It might be a crock of shit to you, but that doesn't make it fact. More people WATCH MOVIES than play games in general.
I bought a video game console to play video games. I won't need the HD-DVD drive, and I don't want it. Regurgitating misleading Sony talking points that have been dismantled time and time again exposes you as nothing more than a PS3 fanboy.

Also, you only pay for Xbox Live if you want to play online, and even then, the stability and services offered by it far surpass Sony's system.

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Does anyone know if the Wii will be as hard to get as the PS3? I know they are all sold out right now but how are they looking for the holidays?
There's absolutely no reason Wiis shouldn't be available in large numbers pretty soon. They've been in production for a long time, now, and they're apparently very easy to churn out, compared to the 360 and PS3.
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Old 11-20-2006, 08:16 PM   #114
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Have you ever played a computer game??? There is no way in hell they will fill up a game on a blu-ray disk or even get close to halfway... There is not enough cache on a computer to run a 20gig game off of disc let alone the PS3 or any console...

Everything you are spouting is pure fanboy garbage..

If you break it down, people that do not want to pay for hd/blu-ray to watch movies will not have to with the 360.. They will not need to fork out the extra 200 for the drive or buying a PS3...

Storage capacity of what??? The disc, the games will never fill them up.. Movies will never fill them up, outside of extra's or multiple movies on one disc... Big deal...

Get over your fanboy antics...
I know you really WISH it was fanboydom, but it isn't. It's researching the products ad nauseum. Here's a quick factual link that shows there is indeed a huge difference in storage capacity between the two mediums, whether you you admit it or not. It's still true.

Here ya go...
http://www.cdfreaks.com/news/Resista...-ray-disc.html
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Old 11-20-2006, 08:24 PM   #115
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I know you really WISH it was fanboydom, but it isn't. It's researching the products ad nauseum. Here's a quick factual link that shows there is indeed a huge difference in storage capacity between the two mediums, whether you you admit it or not. It's still true.

I don't think anybody is questioning the difference in storage capacity... they're saying that with this generation of consoles, that extra storage capacity isn't worth that much. It's like a midget buying a Hummer.... most times that extra room won't be used....
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Old 11-20-2006, 08:36 PM   #116
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The PS3 is unaffordable for the average player and will keep most of the gamers at bay with the steep price.
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This is a pretty good read from the NY Times.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/20/ar...in&oref=slogin

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And so it is a bit of a shock to realize that on the video game front Microsoft and Sony are moving in exactly the opposite directions one might expect given their roots. Microsoft, the prototypical PC company, has made the Xbox 360 into a powerful but intuitive, welcoming, people-friendly system. Sony’s PlayStation 3, on the other hand, often feels like a brawny but somewhat recalcitrant specialized computer. (Sony is even telling users to wait for future software patches to fix some of the PS3’s deficiencies.) The thing is, if people want to use a computer, they’ll use a computer.
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Old 11-20-2006, 10:11 PM   #119
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Blu-ray is used in GAMING, too. It gives more storage capacity per disc.

Also, you do know that the PS3 has a 20 gig model, that sales for $499, right? That's only a $100 bucks more... but again, it's not comparing apples to apples. If you added the 20 gig hard -drive to the 360 it would cost you an additional $100. That's the SAME cost, without movie playback...hmmm.
Weird. I could have sworn my xbox 360 plays movies just fine.
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Old 11-20-2006, 10:13 PM   #120
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I know you really WISH it was fanboydom, but it isn't. It's researching the products ad nauseum. Here's a quick factual link that shows there is indeed a huge difference in storage capacity between the two mediums, whether you you admit it or not. It's still true.

Here ya go...
http://www.cdfreaks.com/news/Resista...-ray-disc.html
Nobody said it wasn't a better storage medium. Hell it's probably a better technology all-around.

But it's NOT PRACTICAL.

Hell, I'm in networking. For 15 years, all I heard was about how great ATM is. ATM is still a superior technology. And you know what?

It's expensive, it's complex, and nobody ****ing uses it.
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