Cardinals ***OFFICIAL*** 2013 STL Cardinals Thread - Page 259

**BigRedChief** · 08:16 PM

From Bernie's column:

People have asked me why we’re not more emotional,” Matheny said in his office after Sunday’s game. “They say that we look subdued, always intense. That our actions are methodical, robotic at times. That’s what got us here. This isn’t the time to change it.”

It’s hard to argue with the manager’s assessment. The Cardinals finished with 97 victories, most by a Cards team since 2005, and tied with Boston for No. 1 in the majors this year.

Their 54-27 showing at Busch Stadium matches the 1985 team for the best single-season home winning percentage (.667) by the Cardinals since 1944.

A postseason theme has emerged, and it echoes the mantra that surfaced before the start of 2013: remember the fall of 2012. Remember falling to San Francisco in the NLCS.

The Cardinals’ veterans still haven’t forgotten. They still aren’t over it. It’s why Matheny resists GM John Mozeliak’s urgings to smile and put on a happier face.

Here's the most impressive aspect of the Cardinals' division championship: they prevailed over two other outstanding teams, Pittsburgh and Cincinnati.

The 97-win Cardinals were better this year (regular season) than they were in 2011, when they won 90 games, and 2012, when they won 88.
Here are a few numbers that help put the Cardinals' Central title and No. 1 NL seed in perspective:

* Since MLB switched to a three-division format in each league in 1994, this was only the sixth time that a division had three 90-plus win teams. St. Louis won 97, Pittsburgh 94, and Cincinnati 90.
* Since the format change, this was only the second time that an NL division had three 90-win teams. In 2002 the NL West had Arizona (98 wins), San Francisco (95) and Los Angeles (92).
* The 2013 Cardinals faced more esteemed and difficult competition at the top of the division than any of the division-winning teams managed by Tony La Russa.

The Pirates were hardly pushovers; the Cardinals had to work like mad and kick in with a strong finish to put the division away, and didn't clinch until Game No. 160.

The Cardinals went 9-10 against Pittsburgh this season and were 11-8 vs. Cincinnati.

The Cardinals won only three of 10 games at PNC Park in Pittsburgh and split the 10 games at Cincinnati. The Cardinals were 6-3 against both teams at Busch Stadium.

The Cardinals (1st), Pirates (3rd) and Reds (5th) ranked among the top five in wins in the NL. The three teams were among the top 11 in wins in MLB. All three teams finished in the top five in the majors for best overall ERA, and each were in the top five MLB for best starting-pitching ERA.

The original purpose to this piece was to point out that the Cardinals managed to finish with the league's best record while competing in a division that had three 90-win teams for only the second time in the last 19 years of National League baseball.

The Cardinals really earned this.
Thanks for reading ...
— Bernie

kcpasco · 08-11-2013, 03:17 PM

Damn who is gonna pitch the 8th. There really isnt a good option. Hope the offense can get some runs here.

Frazod · 08-11-2013, 04:18 PM

Well, at least they didn't get swept.

Mi_chief_fan · 08-11-2013, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by frazod

Well, at least they didn't get swept.

Hell, they actually gained on the Pirates.

Pepe Silvia · 08-11-2013, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Mi_chief_fan

Hell, they actually gained on the Pirates.

That was one of the few positives. Can only hope we string some wins together and the butt Pirates start their collapse.

**BigRedChief** · 08-11-2013, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by PackerinMo

That was one of the few positives. Can only hope we string some wins together and the butt Pirates start their collapse.

We have 6 games at home and 3 games at Pitt left. Plenty of time, if we get out act together.

They have went 5-5 lately. Not exactly on fire.

Pepe Silvia · 08-13-2013, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief

We have 6 games at home and 3 games at Pitt left. Plenty of time, if we get out act together.

They have went 5-5 lately. Not exactly on fire.

They've lost 3 in a row now, its a start. But yeah plenty of games left against them.

scho63 · 08-13-2013, 06:43 PM

Bucco's off to a great start!

Heading to the 'Burgh at the end of the month to watch the Cards come into town and get beat.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 08-13-2013, 07:07 PM

Whaddya, know? Three straight starts where the Cardinals need Wainwright to act like an ace and three straight starts where he's pissed down his leg.

****ing pathetic.

Marcellus · 08-13-2013, 07:48 PM

Gutless mother****ers.

**BigRedChief** · 08-13-2013, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Whaddya, know? Three straight starts where the Cardinals need Wainwright to act like an ace and three straight starts where he's pissed down his leg.

****ing pathetic.

Waino is a gamer. He is not scared of the big game. Something is going on. Lost his release point. Injury we don't know about, something.

He was 0-2 and he hit someone. Thats not Waino.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 08-13-2013, 08:12 PM

Oquendo holds up Beltran on a slow roller through the hole. If he goes they likely throw home and he should make it. Don't know why he'd be so goddamned conservative there when he's reckless every other time.

**BigRedChief** · 08-13-2013, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Oquendo holds up Beltran on a slow roller through the hole. If he goes they likely throw home and he should make it. Don't know why he'd be so goddamned conservative there when he's reckless every other time.

Beltran is day to day with his knees. I'm assuming one good reason would be risking Beltran getting injured with no outs

'Hamas' Jenkins · 08-13-2013, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief

Beltran is day to day with his knees. I'm assuming one good reason would be risking Beltran getting injured with no outs

If he can't run home in that situation he shouldn't be in the lineup. If Jay didn't get that two out hit that decision costs the Cardinals a run.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 08-13-2013, 08:36 PM

Beltran has 1 HR and a .769 OPS since the Break.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 08-13-2013, 09:04 PM

I've never seen a ball hit on that trajectory to that place get caught.

Just un****ingbelievable. The Cardinals are cursed.

01-25-2013, 05:27 PM
BigRedChief Has a particular set of skills Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: On the water Casino cash: $3129627 VARSITY	*OFFICIAL* 2013 STL Cardinals Thread From Bernie's column: People have asked me why we’re not more emotional,” Matheny said in his office after Sunday’s game. “They say that we look subdued, always intense. That our actions are methodical, robotic at times. That’s what got us here. This isn’t the time to change it.” It’s hard to argue with the manager’s assessment. The Cardinals finished with 97 victories, most by a Cards team since 2005, and tied with Boston for No. 1 in the majors this year. Their 54-27 showing at Busch Stadium matches the 1985 team for the best single-season home winning percentage (.667) by the Cardinals since 1944. A postseason theme has emerged, and it echoes the mantra that surfaced before the start of 2013: remember the fall of 2012. Remember falling to San Francisco in the NLCS. The Cardinals’ veterans still haven’t forgotten. They still aren’t over it. It’s why Matheny resists GM John Mozeliak’s urgings to smile and put on a happier face. Here's the most impressive aspect of the Cardinals' division championship: they prevailed over two other outstanding teams, Pittsburgh and Cincinnati. The 97-win Cardinals were better this year (regular season) than they were in 2011, when they won 90 games, and 2012, when they won 88. Here are a few numbers that help put the Cardinals' Central title and No. 1 NL seed in perspective: * Since MLB switched to a three-division format in each league in 1994, this was only the sixth time that a division had three 90-plus win teams. St. Louis won 97, Pittsburgh 94, and Cincinnati 90. * Since the format change, this was only the second time that an NL division had three 90-win teams. In 2002 the NL West had Arizona (98 wins), San Francisco (95) and Los Angeles (92). * The 2013 Cardinals faced more esteemed and difficult competition at the top of the division than any of the division-winning teams managed by Tony La Russa. The Pirates were hardly pushovers; the Cardinals had to work like mad and kick in with a strong finish to put the division away, and didn't clinch until Game No. 160. The Cardinals went 9-10 against Pittsburgh this season and were 11-8 vs. Cincinnati. The Cardinals won only three of 10 games at PNC Park in Pittsburgh and split the 10 games at Cincinnati. The Cardinals were 6-3 against both teams at Busch Stadium. The Cardinals (1st), Pirates (3rd) and Reds (5th) ranked among the top five in wins in the NL. The three teams were among the top 11 in wins in MLB. All three teams finished in the top five in the majors for best overall ERA, and each were in the top five MLB for best starting-pitching ERA. The original purpose to this piece was to point out that the Cardinals managed to finish with the league's best record while competing in a division that had three 90-win teams for only the second time in the last 19 years of National League baseball. The Cardinals really earned this. Thanks for reading ... — Bernie Last edited by BigRedChief; 10-02-2013 at 08:16 PM..
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'Hamas' Jenkins Now you've pissed me off! Join Date: Jan 2006 Casino cash: $8009572	Oquendo holds up Beltran on a slow roller through the hole. If he goes they likely throw home and he should make it. Don't know why he'd be so goddamned conservative there when he's reckless every other time. __________________ "When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read 'all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and Catholics.' When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty – to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocrisy.”--Abraham Lincoln
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'Hamas' Jenkins Now you've pissed me off! Join Date: Jan 2006 Casino cash: $8009572	I've never seen a ball hit on that trajectory to that place get caught. Just un****ingbelievable. The Cardinals are cursed. __________________ "When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read 'all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and Catholics.' When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty – to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocrisy.”--Abraham Lincoln
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