No More Salary Cap After 2009?

**doomy3** · 01-31-2008, 09:08 PM

This would not be good at all for the Chiefs IMO. Seems like Upshaw is getting greedy here. The NFL needs a salary cap IMO, and it is one thing that has helped make the strategic side of the NFL worthwhile. Unlike baseball, where the richest teams have a huge advantage. Hopefully this doesn't happen. Here's the link:

Jan. 31 - 7:11 pm et

NFL Players Association director Gene Upshaw expects the owners to terminate the current Collective Bargaining Agreement in November 2008.

That would make 2009 the last year of the salary cap, and 2010 an uncapped year. The players will not agree to another salary cap if it gets to that point. Upshaw says the NFLPA won't hesitate to strike. "This isn't hockey, where the players agreed to a 25 percent pay cut," a defiant Upshaw said. "We're not going to do anything like that."

http://www.rotoworld.com/content/pla...rt=NFL&id=1544

**jjchieffan** · 01-31-2008, 09:13 PM

Sounds like Upshaw is trying to strongarm the owners. He is happy with the CBA and figures that the best way to keep the owners from terminating it would be to threaten to not agree to a salary cap.

**CrazyPhuD** · 01-31-2008, 09:43 PM

This would be hilarious to happen. Go ahead and strike...do that and the NFL is dead. They'll never recover if they do. Like everything else people will move to different media. TV is going to be completely ****ed by the writers strike and may never recover. People have moved on to online and other media. You want to strike in today's day and age and you die...pure and simple.

Rasputin · 01-31-2008, 09:47 PM

Reserect the XFL

xbarretx · 01-31-2008, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by CrazyPhuD

This would be hilarious to happen. Go ahead and strike...do that and the NFL is dead. They'll never recover if they do. Like everything else people will move to different media. TV is going to be completely ****ed by the writers strike and may never recover. People have moved on to online and other media. You want to strike in today's day and age and you die...pure and simple.

true dat, i still dont watch MLB and NBA.

think of all the money we'll save on not getting ST's

xbarretx · 03-12-2008, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by CrazyPhuD

This would be hilarious to happen. Go ahead and strike...do that and the NFL is dead. They'll never recover if they do. Like everything else people will move to different media. TV is going to be completely ****ed by the writers strike and may never recover. People have moved on to online and other media. You want to strike in today's day and age and you die...pure and simple.

thank you, this is 90000000% correct. its so correct its not mathematically possible to be so correct!

nychief · 03-12-2008, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by xbarretx

thank you, this is 90000000% correct. its so correct its not mathematically possible to be so correct!

you are both wrong. the writer's strike was short and has will have little long term effect. As for the NFL, the players union has no teeth...they are just sword rattling because Upshaw has been schooled in the past.

Brock · 03-12-2008, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by nychief

you are both wrong. the writer's strike was short and has will have little long term effect. As for the NFL, the players union has no teeth...they are just sword rattling because Upshaw has been schooled in the past.

some people just don't seem to realize it's not 1987 anymore.

oldandslow · 03-12-2008, 02:03 PM

The cap will die, imo.

The players learned from baseball...

Baseball is healthier than ever (broke attendence rcds, etc) and football players see that.

Fans get screwed, however, with higher prices.

Hockey isn't a fair comparison, because no one cared to begin with.

Pitt Gorilla · 03-12-2008, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by CrazyPhuD

This would be hilarious to happen. Go ahead and strike...do that and the NFL is dead. They'll never recover if they do. Like everything else people will move to different media. TV is going to be completely ****ed by the writers strike and may never recover. People have moved on to online and other media. You want to strike in today's day and age and you die...pure and simple.

I'm ready for some new NBC Thursday comedies.

el borracho · 01-31-2008, 09:48 PM

How is tv ****ed? Have people stopped watching tv during the strike?

**CrazyPhuD** · 01-31-2008, 09:51 PM

http://entertainment.timesonline.co....cle3279454.ece

Viewers turned off by Hollywood writers' strike 'may never switch TV on again'

American TV networks have lost almost a quarter of their audiences because of the Hollywood writers' strike, according to new figures, and executives fear that “orphaned” viewers may never return.

The Nielsen ratings organisation found that US viewership for last week's opening of the 2008 TV season was down 21 per cent compared with the same week last year, when new episodes of hit shows such as Desperate Housewives and Grey's Anatomy were aired.

Because the strike has shut down production of all scripted shows, the networks are now almost completely out of fresh material to broadcast, instead relying on reality TV franchises such as American Idol.

The channel CW - home of Gossip Girl and America's Next Top Model - lost 50 per cent of viewers in the 18 to 49-year-old bracket sampled by Nielsen. “It's hard to ignore the declines,” the Hollywood trade magazine Variety said. It said that last week's figures were the first real evidence of the damage from the strike because previous weeks had been skewed by sporting events and Christmas holiday programming.

Not everyone lost out. Perhaps because of the controversy over her pregnancy, Jamie Lynn Spears, the 16-year-old sister of Britney Spears, saw her sitcom, Zoey 101, on the Nickelodeon children's channel attract a record six million viewers.

The show was filmed last summer - before the strike and before Spears revealed that she was pregnant.

The Hollywood stoppage is costing the Los Angeles economy an estimated $20 million (£11 million) a day. Thousands are out of work. Small businesses, such as the props suppliers along Hollywood Boulevard, are struggling to stay afloat. The organisers of the Golden Globes lost $6 million in one night when their event was turned into a press conference because actors refused to cross writers' picket lines to attend the awards.

There is some hope, since talks between the Writers Guild of America and Hollywood studio bosses resumed last week after a long and acrimonious stand-off over the Christmas holidays.

“I'm hopeful,” said Devon Shepherd, a writer for Weeds and Chris Rock's Everybody Hates Chris. “We're all just hoping that with time passing, cooler heads will prevail.”

The biggest issue remains the royalties paid to writers for TV shows and films streamed over the internet, as well as content downloaded on iTunes. So far, the writers have had the support of the Screen Actors Guild, which will face the same issues when its contract runs out in June.

Writers as well as studios are worried that lost viewers may never return to TV, instead finding new ways to entertainment themselves, such as YouTube, Facebook or video games. The most recent figures show that YouTube has had an 18 per cent surge in traffic, while visitor numbers to other websites, such as Crackle, have seen doubled, albeit from small bases.

During the last writers' strike of 20 years ago, about 10 per cent of network TV viewers never returned, most of them going to subscription cable channels such as HBO.

**chasedude** · 01-31-2008, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by el borracho

How is tv ****ed? Have people stopped watching tv during the strike?

They've stopped watching commercials during NFL games, that's the big ax on how TV's ****ed.

PastorMikH · 01-31-2008, 10:46 PM

Used to love baseball. Now I really couldn't care much less for it. Teams draft players, develope them, then once the player gets good, they go sign for a ridiculous amount of money with one of the rich teams in the league. Seems like I'm not the only former fan that feels this way either.

If football does similar, I wonder what would happen with the fan base. Will fans still root for their teams or will we end up with a few teams buying up all the best players to win championships while fans move on to another sport.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 01-31-2008, 10:54 PM

This isn't going to happen, IMO.

When has the salary cap ever kept players from making ridiculous amounts of cash?

The league is in great shape, and I highly doubt the players are going to give up these huge salaries because Upshaw is a greedy ****.

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doomy3 Supporter Join Date: Aug 2005 Casino cash: $5263539	No More Salary Cap After 2009? This would not be good at all for the Chiefs IMO. Seems like Upshaw is getting greedy here. The NFL needs a salary cap IMO, and it is one thing that has helped make the strategic side of the NFL worthwhile. Unlike baseball, where the richest teams have a huge advantage. Hopefully this doesn't happen. Here's the link: Jan. 31 - 7:11 pm et NFL Players Association director Gene Upshaw expects the owners to terminate the current Collective Bargaining Agreement in November 2008. That would make 2009 the last year of the salary cap, and 2010 an uncapped year. The players will not agree to another salary cap if it gets to that point. Upshaw says the NFLPA won't hesitate to strike. "This isn't hockey, where the players agreed to a 25 percent pay cut," a defiant Upshaw said. "We're not going to do anything like that." http://www.rotoworld.com/content/pla...rt=NFL&id=1544
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01-31-2008, 09:51 PM	#12
CrazyPhuD Meow Join Date: Jun 2005 Casino cash: $10005050	http://entertainment.timesonline.co....cle3279454.ece Viewers turned off by Hollywood writers' strike 'may never switch TV on again' American TV networks have lost almost a quarter of their audiences because of the Hollywood writers' strike, according to new figures, and executives fear that “orphaned” viewers may never return. The Nielsen ratings organisation found that US viewership for last week's opening of the 2008 TV season was down 21 per cent compared with the same week last year, when new episodes of hit shows such as Desperate Housewives and Grey's Anatomy were aired. Because the strike has shut down production of all scripted shows, the networks are now almost completely out of fresh material to broadcast, instead relying on reality TV franchises such as American Idol. The channel CW - home of Gossip Girl and America's Next Top Model - lost 50 per cent of viewers in the 18 to 49-year-old bracket sampled by Nielsen. “It's hard to ignore the declines,” the Hollywood trade magazine Variety said. It said that last week's figures were the first real evidence of the damage from the strike because previous weeks had been skewed by sporting events and Christmas holiday programming. Not everyone lost out. Perhaps because of the controversy over her pregnancy, Jamie Lynn Spears, the 16-year-old sister of Britney Spears, saw her sitcom, Zoey 101, on the Nickelodeon children's channel attract a record six million viewers. The show was filmed last summer - before the strike and before Spears revealed that she was pregnant. The Hollywood stoppage is costing the Los Angeles economy an estimated $20 million (£11 million) a day. Thousands are out of work. Small businesses, such as the props suppliers along Hollywood Boulevard, are struggling to stay afloat. The organisers of the Golden Globes lost $6 million in one night when their event was turned into a press conference because actors refused to cross writers' picket lines to attend the awards. There is some hope, since talks between the Writers Guild of America and Hollywood studio bosses resumed last week after a long and acrimonious stand-off over the Christmas holidays. “I'm hopeful,” said Devon Shepherd, a writer for Weeds and Chris Rock's Everybody Hates Chris. “We're all just hoping that with time passing, cooler heads will prevail.” The biggest issue remains the royalties paid to writers for TV shows and films streamed over the internet, as well as content downloaded on iTunes. So far, the writers have had the support of the Screen Actors Guild, which will face the same issues when its contract runs out in June. Writers as well as studios are worried that lost viewers may never return to TV, instead finding new ways to entertainment themselves, such as YouTube, Facebook or video games. The most recent figures show that YouTube has had an 18 per cent surge in traffic, while visitor numbers to other websites, such as Crackle, have seen doubled, albeit from small bases. During the last writers' strike of 20 years ago, about 10 per cent of network TV viewers never returned, most of them going to subscription cable channels such as HBO.
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