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Old 10-21-2017, 12:52 AM  
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Creating cap space for shoring up defense for 2018
I know it is looking way into the future, and neglecting 2017, but I was interested to see what kind of cap figures we could get into for 2018.

According to over the cap, the Chiefs are set to be .9M over the cap at the start of league year 2018.

This figure includes a dead money figure of 4.8M for Jeremy Maclin, and a dead money figure of .77M for Jah Reid.

There are a few players who I think have little to no chance of being on the roster next season.

Alex smith, with a cap figure of 20.6M if cut or traded would save 17M on the cap, and cost us 3.6M in dead money.

DJ, as much as I hate to say it, is done. Ending his 10.2M contract in 2018 saves 8M and leaves us with 2.2M in dead money.

Tamba Hali has a cap number of 8.5M in 2018 and would cost us 1.5M in dead money but save us 7M if cut.

So after those three we are at roughly 31.1M in cap space.

We have no big name free agents next year that we should be too concerned with resigning. I am guessing we pick up Marcus Peters 5th year option, which will keep him on the roster through the 2019 season. Dee Fords option was picked up earlier this off season and he will be a UFA at the start of the 2019 league year.

I dont think too many of our free agents stick around after this year.

Perhaps we resign Albert Wilson, Anthony Sherman, Terrence Mitchell and Zack Fulton. Those deals shouldnt cost much more than 10M I would hope. This year combined these four players account for less than 7.5M. Maybe we resign a couple low end UFA and RFA to tenders.

So realistically we could have 21M going into free agency.

I dont know if anyone here considers Allen Bailey and Ron Parker as potential cap casualties, but Bailey would save us another 6M and Ron parker would save us another 5M.

So without those two we could be sitting pretty at 32M in cap space prior to FA with the re signings of the players mentioned before.

Players I am looking at in free agency are:

Safety Kenny Vaccaro of the saints,

ILB Todd Davis of the broncos,

ILB Zach Brown of the redskins,

CB Morris Claiborne of the jets,

These guys aren't considered "top tier" free agents, but I think each one of them could come into this defense and be an immediate upgrade for a decent deal.

I would also be looking for a 3-4 DT or DE if there were any available that were worth a shit.

That being said, with the probable release of DJ and Hali and the group of pending free agents along the D Line, if it becomes necessary to switch to a 4-3 with a new DC, this would be a decent year to do it.

What do you think guys? How can we get this defense shored up prior to the draft?
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Old 10-22-2017, 06:17 PM   #62
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You really don't have any ****ing clue how or why trades happen in the NFL, do you?
Teams aren't going to give up an early round draft pick for Smith unless he agrees to sign an extension with them. Of course there might be some team willing to part with a 3rd or 4th round pick for a 1 yr rental.
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Old 10-22-2017, 06:20 PM   #63
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Teams aren't going to give up an early round draft pick for Smith unless he agrees to sign an extension with them. Of course there might be some team willing to part with a 3rd or 4th round pick for a 1 yr rental.
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Old 10-22-2017, 06:24 PM   #64
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A one year bradford went for a 1...

Alex Smith is worth more than him.
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Old 10-22-2017, 06:30 PM   #65
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This version of Alex Smith can fetch a 1st rounder ALL DAY. Jacksonville has the defense that can win a championship right now. They've spent big money on it. They aren't going to be afraid to go all in on a short window with Smith.
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Tom Coughlin wants to win now and Alex fits the role best. Don't see any reason they will be concerned about extending him.
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A one year bradford went for a 1...

Alex Smith is worth more than him.
Bradford had 2 yrs on his contract when he was traded, plus Vikings were stupid desperate after Bridgewater went down right before the start of the season.
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Bradford had 2 yrs on his contract when he was traded, plus Vikings were stupid desperate after Bridgewater went down right before the start of the season.
Don't you think that you would be stupid desperate if your QB is Blake Bortles?
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Don't you think that you would be stupid desperate if your QB is Blake Bortles?
He did throw for 300 plus yards today
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He did throw for 300 plus yards today
And? Blake Bortles is still ****ing garbo.

It was the ****ing Colts.
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Teams aren't going to give up an early round draft pick for Smith unless he agrees to sign an extension with them. Of course there might be some team willing to part with a 3rd or 4th round pick for a 1 yr rental.
This isn't ****ing MLB.

There is no position in all of sports like QB. The franchise tag exists. Teams can re-sign and extend at will. And winning solves everything. That's what Alex does, right? ****ing wins? That's what everybody has been telling me nonstop.

The 1 year left on the contract is meaningless. Like somebody already said, Bradford ****ing sucks dick and had 1 year left. The Eagles got a 1st rounder out of the Vikings.
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Old 10-22-2017, 06:47 PM   #72
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Cutting off older, ineffective players isn't a bad thing you reerun. Teams do it every single year.

Are you advocating for keeping together a bottom tier Defense? I mean seriously, what the ****. Some of you ****ers have unquestionable love for jags and never ****ing were's.

"HEY THIS DEFENSE IS ****ING SHIT SO LETS TRADE ONE OF THE FEW GOOD PLAYERS BECAUSE HE IS EMOTIONAL AND **** YOU IF YOU WANT TO GET RID OF THESE UNDER PERFORMING PLAYERS THAT ARE THE ACTUAL ONES PARTLY RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS AIDS"
Ford has his option picked up so he is not going anywhere. Harris is still the 2cd best TE on the squad.
Tamba and DJ are most certainly gone. The rest is not likely with the exception of Smith depending on his play.
We are tight against the cap and cutting a bunch of players and thinking you are just going to replace them all with more talented players is not likely to happen. Teams do not get improvement at ever position that they replace players year in and year out. We do not have the cap space and drafting players doesn't always work out immediately.
The problem is we lost Berry who was the key to Suttons defensive scheme and without Berry he has not been able to adjust adequately yet, if he even can. The problem is more Sutton and this scheme than the players.
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Jags and Vikings I think would be the most interested. They are ready to compete now instead of waiting for a draft pick in a pretty weak class outside of Rosen to fall to them.
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Without reading the replies, I don't think there's a chance in hell Ron Parker is cut.

I also think if Alex keeps up this pace, they will absolutely bring him back at his cap figure.

Space will be created by cutting old washed players like DJ, Tamba and possible restructure of Justin Houston.
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Bradford had 2 yrs on his contract when he was traded, plus Vikings were stupid desperate after Bridgewater went down right before the start of the season.
There will be desperate teams.

If Alex Smith finishes this season with 30 plus TDs and minimal interceptions with about 3,500-4k yards, he's going to be in high draft pick demand.
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