Iron Man 3

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by unlurking

These characters are decades old. This isn't about our current reading material (I can't remember the last time I read a comic book). This is about stomping on our childhood dreams!!!

Has ANY movie fully followed the comic books to a T? Not that I can think of. What people have to realize is that these companies aren't making these movies to satisfy the comic nerds. They're doing it to draw in EVERYONE.

Shit....even Nolan's Batman sucked if you look at it from a strictly "follow the comic book" view.

[unlurking]

Originally Posted by Pestilence

Has ANY movie fully followed the comic books to a T? Not that I can think of. What people have to realize is that these companies aren't making these movies to satisfy the comic nerds. They're doing it to draw in EVERYONE.

Shit....even Nolan's Batman sucked if you look at it from a strictly "follow the comic book" view.

Oh, I agree completely. I just think that stepping on the Mandarin was stupid and overboard.

The Mandarin was a draw to the comic nerds, not the common movie goer. No reason to even use him like that, since the EVERYONE group would have been just as happy with any costumed idiot, not knowing who the Mandarin is. It was basically a big "**** you" to the comic nerds if you ask me. The Mandarin was not needed to draw in the EVERYONE group, but he was highly anticipated by the comic nerds.

[GloryDayz]

Well I work really hard (as we all do!!!) and can appreciate some simple down time. I saw it Sunday at "before 4:00" prices and I was entertained... It was worth the price for sure. And taking away the worries and letting we kill the cell for a few hours was worth even more! Like!!

[Hammock Parties]

What I can admit is that they probably could have made a BETTER movie with a full-fledged rendition of The Mandarin.

I'm not sure why they didn't try to do that. Maybe too ambitious.

[JD10367]

I've decided it's a not-very-good film, but was still enjoyable. Just too many flaws.

1.) The stupid kid in the middle act. No purpose whatsoever.

2.) "The Mandarin", and taking a giant shit on the fanboys and the canon.

3.) Too much Tony Stark out of the suit.

4.) Sucky end action-scene too reminiscent of "Iron Man 2". Empty suits controlled by a computer? Really?

5.) "Iron Patriot". Another shit on the fanboys.

What saved it:

1.) Robert Downey Jr.

2.) See #1.

[Hammock Parties]

The kid was awesome. Shut up. Be entertained.

[GloryDayz]

Wow....lots of butthurt in the tread.... Let it go man!!!

[the steam]

2 thumbs up

[Anyong Bluth]

..and now the supposed real scoop on Marvel once again being stingy ****s when it comes to paying their talent...



WEDNESDAY MAY 08, 2013 FULL WEBSITE »
Marvel and Robert Downey Jr. Are Fighting Over Money
BY ESTHER ZUCKERMAN | 12:03 PM ET
In Iron Man 3 Robert Downey Jr. (a.k.a. Tony Stark, a.k.a. Iron Man) may have defeated the Mandarin, saved the president, and reunited with Pepper Potts, but perhaps his upcoming battle—the one that will lead to future adventures—will be the most interesting. Yes, Downey is facing off with executives from Marvel.
A series of reports, including one particularly juicy one from Nikki Finke of Deadline, explained how Downey is not locked in for any future films as Tony Stark, including the in-development Avengers 2. Downey received a massive paycheck from the first Avengers, which grossed over $1 billion. According to Finke, he took in $50 million for that film (which she says was "more like $70 million-$80 million now that the film is all in."). She says he should exceed that for Iron Man 3.
Borys Kit and Paul Bond of The Hollywood Reporter report Marvel is trying to woo Downey for those future films. A private dinner Monday at Spago in Los Angeles "kicked off a crucial period for Disney, Marvel and Downey" as they have now entered negotiations for his future in the franchise. It will be tricky. Downey has made, and probably wants, a lot of money to continue as Stark, but Finke explains: "Marvel and its famously frugal CEO Ike Perlmutter still give new meaning to the term stingy."
And just as Iron Man might be the ringleader of sorts for the Avengers, Downey is the ringleader for the Avengers cast, some of whom made much less than he did for the first movie and may not be eager to get suited up for the second if they don't get their payday. An "insider" told Finke that: "Some received only $200,000 for Avengers and Downey got paid $50 million. On what planet is that OK?" Meanwhile, she reports that some cast members aren't that excited even with the obvious box office potential. Chris Hemsworth reportedly groaned about having to bulk up for the second Thor installment, and Scarlett Johansson told castmates that she won't "cut her quote" for the Avengers sequel, meaning that she won't work for less than the highest she's been paid.
But Marvel is not afraid of recasting roles. Three actors have played the Hulk since 2003, for instance, but none of them wielded the power of Downey. Meanwhile, when Terrence Howard left the Iron Man franchise, money issues were mentioned as a reason.
Downey, meanwhile, has been coy about his future in the role of Iron Man. Take, for instance, his appearance last night on Jimmy Kimmel's show. He proposed starting a Kickstarter for Iron Man 4, given that he wasn't "getting a lot of support." It's a joke but Downey is, as the cliché goes, laughing all the way to the bank.


During Downey's visit at The Daily Show, he told Jon Stewart that he doesn't know whether he's going to keep going and now is the time when he's going to "renegotiate."
While Marvel and Disney could just give Downey the piles of money he wants, Marvel has been a tough negotiator, and they might surprise us all. Latino Review's El Mayimbe wondered on Twitter if Marvel might set "a precedent that they are a company that won't cave in to actor demands and severs the RDJ relationship." But if Downey goes does everyone else go with him? And does that mean that Marvel has to start from scratch when it comes to building up the clout it established with The Avengers? There's an interesting, and perhaps fraught road ahead.
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[GordonGekko]

Originally Posted by Anyong Bluth

she reports that some cast members aren't that excited even with the obvious box office potential. Chris Hemsworth reportedly groaned about having to bulk up for the second Thor installment

**** Chris Hemsworth, dude is making bank and is getting set for life on these movies and he is upset about having to bulk up?

Pretty rediculous how much Downey is raking in, I love him in the part but $50m - $80m seems outrageous.

[Chiefspants]

Originally Posted by GordonGekko

**** Chris Hemsworth, dude is making bank and is getting set for life on these movies and he is upset about having to bulk up?

Pretty rediculous how much Downey is raking in, I love him in the part but $50m - $80m seems outrageous.

I've read reports that it's more of a financial issue for hemsworth. He made around 150k from the avengers and marvel reportedly made a similar offer for the sequel.

[keg in kc]

The counterpoint to above article: http://www.chud.com/135091/lets-stop...l-is-shall-we/

[Wallcrawler]

Considering that they just shit all over the Mandarin, and there's no way that in the current continuity they can just "undo" that and actually get the real Mandarin into a film, there's not really much left to do for Iron Man that hasnt already been done.

Bring him in for Avengers 2 to team up and square off against Thanos, but as far as more Iron Man films, there's only so much of this you can do before it becomes stale. IM 1 was brilliant. 2 had a lot of action but was a bit of a letdown and 3....well lets just say Im putting IM 3 in that same little file along with Spider-Man 3, and X-3. Movies that just forgot where they came from and took a giant crap on the fans of the comics.

Id like RDJ back for Avengers 2, but as far as more Iron Man films, just stop before they get any worse IMO.

[keg in kc]

Originally Posted by Wallcrawler

3....well lets just say Im putting IM 3 in that same little file along with Spider-Man 3, and X-3. Movies that just forgot where they came from and took a giant crap on the fans of the comics

Spider-Man 3 and X-3 were two of the worst comic movies to date, but it didn't have anything to do with fandom or continuity. They were simply awful movies. Iron Man 3 isn't even remotely in that ballpark.

[Deberg_1990]

Originally Posted by keg in kc

Spider-Man 3 and X-3 were two of the worst comic movies to date, but it didn't have anything to do with fandom or continuity. They were simply awful movies. Iron Man 3 isn't even remotely in that ballpark.

This.

Those were not Marvel Studio movies. They are just licensed characters to the other studios.

I did read the Marvel got the rights back to Daredevil and Blade just recently. Maybe they could get a movies again.