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Mile High Mania · 12-17-2014, 10:54 AM

Interesting debates on these every year, here's one from ESPN.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/12...demarco-murray

Peyton, Rodgers, Brady, Murray, Watt, Luck...

Where would you guys lean? I don't know, part of me tends to lean towards Murray quite honestly. I think Peyton's crazy 2013 year hurts the image of what he's done in 2014, especially when compared against the other QBs that are getting all the MVP talk. Peyton's right there with them.

Aside from all that, I think it's a pretty even race among the QBs in the discussion... I wouldn't give it Watt, I think my vote with be DeMarco.

Hog's Gone Fishin · 12-17-2014, 08:22 PM

Heh, Peyton Manning 1 ****ing vote and it's by MHM . **** him !

Mile High Mania · 12-17-2014, 08:23 PM

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Heh, Peyton Manning 1 ****ing vote and it's by MHM . **** him !

Negative, I voted Murray. I forgot the option to make it public. I'm sure a Mod can change that.

Just Passin' By · 12-17-2014, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by 58-4ever

That's just silly. Rogers is the most gifted QB I think I've ever seen.

I always get a kick out of arguments like this. How is Rodgers more gifted than Marino, for example, nevermind Brady or Montana?

Mile High Mania · 12-17-2014, 08:30 PM

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I always get a kick out of arguments like this. How is Rodgers more gifted than Marino, for example, nevermind Brady or Montana?

I'd love to see some of the QBs from the 70s/80s playing in this era...

Just Passin' By · 12-17-2014, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

I'd love to see some of the QBs from the 70s/80s playing in this era...

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Originally Posted by 58-4ever

That's just silly. Rogers is the most gifted QB I think I've ever seen.

I like these types of discussions because they give a window into which skills the people involve think are more important.

**notorious** · 12-17-2014, 09:28 PM

What team would tank the most if they lost said player?

Rodgers, Luck, Peyton IMO.

**notorious** · 12-17-2014, 09:30 PM

You guys are giving Murray too much credit.

How many running backs would dominate if they didn't get touched until they have ran 2-3 yards into the defense every play?

KC_Connection · 12-17-2014, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

Yeah, but to be fair that game was the Cardinals with Carson Palmer.

Not sure how that changes the fact that the Cowboys are a mess without Romo. Looked awful against the Redskins too with Weeden.

Jim Lahey · 12-17-2014, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by notorious

You guys are giving Murray too much credit.

How many running backs would dominate if they didn't get touched until they have ran 2-3 yards into the defense every play?

leVeon deserves way more credit than Murray imo

Wallcrawler · 12-17-2014, 10:36 PM

For me its Murray. Hands down. He's singlehandedly dragged the Dallas Cowboys franchise kicking and screaming back to relevancy. If he's able to play normally with the hand, he'll likely surpass Emmit Smith's Cowboys Franchise record for rushing yards in a season.

Without him, Dallas isn't even 8-8 this year.

The fact that the guy broke his hand, and the entire organization was balls out to not rule him out of the next game tells you how important this guy is.

If the guy can draw breath and move forward carrying a football, the Cowboys are fielding DeMarco Murray.

He's my vote.

**TimeForWasp** · 12-17-2014, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Simply Red

This is very sweet of you to say - He will feel great the remainder of the day - very kind of you and unselfish.

You seem TOO nice.

chiefzilla1501 · 12-17-2014, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Wallcrawler

For me its Murray. Hands down. He's singlehandedly dragged the Dallas Cowboys franchise kicking and screaming back to relevancy. If he's able to play normally with the hand, he'll likely surpass Emmit Smith's Cowboys Franchise record for rushing yards in a season.

Without him, Dallas isn't even 8-8 this year.

The fact that the guy broke his hand, and the entire organization was balls out to not rule him out of the next game tells you how important this guy is.

If the guy can draw breath and move forward carrying a football, the Cowboys are fielding DeMarco Murray.

He's my vote.

Last week was the first week all year Demarco Murray's Cowboys beat a team over .500.

Wallcrawler · 12-17-2014, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by notorious

You guys are giving Murray too much credit.

How many running backs would dominate if they didn't get touched until they have ran 2-3 yards into the defense every play?

If the backs behind Murray were having similar success behind that line, I might buy this bullshit.

Chief Roundup · 12-17-2014, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by notorious

What team would tank the most if they lost said player?

Rodgers, Luck, Peyton IMO.

That really depends on the backup. Matt Flynn, Matt Hasselbeck, Brock Osweiller are the backups so I would think that the Donkos would be the most affected. I am not sure who would win between the Matt's Hasselbeck is OLD, Flynn has only looked good in Green Bay for that one game.

Simply Red · 12-17-2014, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by cosmo20002

The uncomfortable reality is that Tom Brady is fading. Read it on CP.

LOL - yeah.

Heh.

That SD game he looked really solid. Like ridiculously good. At least while I was watching it. He can light it right up when he's on.

View Poll Results: 2014 MVP
DeMarco Murray	16	13.22%
Aaron Rodgers	50	41.32%
Tom Brady	10	8.26%
Andrew Luck	2	1.65%
Peyton Manning	2	1.65%
J.J. Watt	36	29.75%
other	5	4.13%
Voters: 121. You may not vote on this poll

12-17-2014, 10:54 AM
Mile High Mania #triggering Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Tejas Casino cash: $3687229	NFL MVP Interesting debates on these every year, here's one from ESPN. http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/12...demarco-murray Peyton, Rodgers, Brady, Murray, Watt, Luck... Where would you guys lean? I don't know, part of me tends to lean towards Murray quite honestly. I think Peyton's crazy 2013 year hurts the image of what he's done in 2014, especially when compared against the other QBs that are getting all the MVP talk. Peyton's right there with them. Aside from all that, I think it's a pretty even race among the QBs in the discussion... I wouldn't give it Watt, I think my vote with be DeMarco.
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Hog's Gone Fishin Fish are scared of me Join Date: Nov 2001 Casino cash: $1710477	Heh, Peyton Manning 1 **ing vote and it's by MHM . ** him !
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12-17-2014, 09:28 PM	#96
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12-17-2014, 09:30 PM	#97
notorious Supporter Join Date: May 2005 Location: Who knows? Casino cash: $2935884	You guys are giving Murray too much credit. How many running backs would dominate if they didn't get touched until they have ran 2-3 yards into the defense every play?
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12-17-2014, 10:36 PM	#100
Wallcrawler How tall is this thing? Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Ground 0 for enema of US. Casino cash: $4242912	For me its Murray. Hands down. He's singlehandedly dragged the Dallas Cowboys franchise kicking and screaming back to relevancy. If he's able to play normally with the hand, he'll likely surpass Emmit Smith's Cowboys Franchise record for rushing yards in a season. Without him, Dallas isn't even 8-8 this year. The fact that the guy broke his hand, and the entire organization was balls out to not rule him out of the next game tells you how important this guy is. If the guy can draw breath and move forward carrying a football, the Cowboys are fielding DeMarco Murray. He's my vote. __________________ She did not open her eyes this morning. I don't know what else to say.
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