NFL MVP

[Mile High Mania]

Interesting debates on these every year, here's one from ESPN.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/12...demarco-murray

Peyton, Rodgers, Brady, Murray, Watt, Luck...

Where would you guys lean? I don't know, part of me tends to lean towards Murray quite honestly. I think Peyton's crazy 2013 year hurts the image of what he's done in 2014, especially when compared against the other QBs that are getting all the MVP talk. Peyton's right there with them.

Aside from all that, I think it's a pretty even race among the QBs in the discussion... I wouldn't give it Watt, I think my vote with be DeMarco.

[Just Passin' By]

It should be a close vote this year. It's pretty easy to make arguments both for, and against, the likely top 4 contenders.

[ThaVirus]

Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

That's only because Dallas likes to pass to people called Receivers at times when they get close to the endzone.

The Cowboys run the ball a shit ton from every point on the field. Murray has more than double the amount of touches that Jamaal has.. He should have more TDs, as well.

Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

Brady without Gronk, Rodgers without Nelson, Manning without Thomas...

You can do that all day. I simply don't think any of those QBs has set themselves that far apart (across the board of whatever area you want to judge them) from the others.

Rodgers had a slow start, Brady had a few off weeks and Manning has been off his stats greatness the last few weeks. They've all been pretty equally consistent though YTD. Again, only reason I say that no QB is the MVP at this point and would look at Murray.

I disagree. Rodger's TD:INT ratio puts him a head above Peyton and Brady.

Luck plays in a horrendous division so I give him less credit. He wouldn't even be considered for me.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Luck is a true one man gang though. That team around him is pure dog crap. Even worse than Denver's surrounding squad. He has what one less win than jughead?

[Pasta Little Brioni]

I still say it's Rodgers pretty easily. That Buffalo game hurt him a bit though

[Hootie]

Luck is not a one man gang. That shit is ridiculous.

He's the new ****ing media darling who gets EVERY ****ING EXCUSE in the world.

He threw a damn pick 6 to Kendrick Lewis on a terrible throw and almost lost to Tom ****ing Savage.

He'll lose, handily, in the 2nd round of the playoffs (if not the 1st) again this year.

He's going to be great. He isn't there yet, though. He's an excellent player when his team is down 7+ and the opposing defense, inexplicably, stops being aggressive.

Early in games? He's terrible.

Would I rather have a guy who's better late than early? Sure. But would I rather have a guy who doesn't constantly put my team in a hole sometimes to deep to dig my way out of? Duh.

Luck is a top 7 QB right now. He still is nowhere near Rodgers / Brady or Manning and I'd still take Wilson for 1 year over Luck for 1 year.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

I would vote for him over Murray or WAtt but yeah behind Rodgers Manning Brady.

[ThaVirus]

Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball

Luck is a true one man gang though. That team around him is pure dog crap. Even worse than Denver's surrounding squad. He has what one less win than jughead?

He is.. But, man, that division sucks balls. Their schedule beyond that is dog shit as well.

2 games against the Texans.
2 games against the Jaguars.
2 games against the Titans.
1 game against the Redskins.
1 game against the Giants.

They lost to the Eagles and Broncos. Got SLAUGHTERED by the Steelers and Patriots.

I'd say their only quality wins all year came against the Ravens and Bengals.

Maybe not so different than a lot of other teams in the league but I just struggle to be impressed.

[Hootie]

http://espn.go.com/nfl/qbr

I post that stat with a huge asterisk because I still don't think it's the be all end all, or even close ... but I'm not surprised Andrew Luck is 11th in total QBR. Careless with the ball, still misses easy throws. He'll be great, he's just not great yet.

How Joe Flacco is ****ing 5th in that baffles the absolute shit out of me, so I feel like a **** for even posting it, but looking at the top 10, 9 of the names make sense.

[Garcia Bronco]

I think it's a pick'em between Watt and Rodgers

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco

I think it's a pick'em between Watt and Rodgers

and I bet you Rodgers wins in a landslide.

The NFL MVP doesn't come from a non-playoff team in a shit division

Watt is the DPOY. Good for him. Total beast. Not MVP material.

[Mile High Mania]

So do the Patriots play in a division that much better than Indy?

And I'm laughing at the comment about the weapons and team surrounding Peyton. Luck is also not a one man gang, damn good, but there is talent in that offense.

[Mile High Mania]

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

and I bet you Rodgers wins in a landslide.

The NFL MVP doesn't come from a non-playoff team in a shit division

Watt is the DPOY. Good for him. Total beast. Not MVP material.

Can Rodgers win it as a WC team with 5 losses over the others? Again, how is he vastly superior this year over the others?

[cosmo20002]

Originally Posted by ThaVirus

1. Watt
2. Rodgers
3. Murray
4. Brady

Those would be my only ballots and, realistically, only Watt or Rodgers would get my vote. If Watt doesn't win, it will be bullshit. He needs to win unless we want this thing to devolve into an MVQB thing every single year.

I can't even believe Peyton is getting consideration.

The uncomfortable reality is that Tom Brady is fading. Read it on CP.

[Garcia Bronco]

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

and I bet you Rodgers wins in a landslide.

The NFL MVP doesn't come from a non-playoff team in a shit division

Watt is the DPOY. Good for him. Total beast. Not MVP material.

He's absolutely MVP material, but I do agree a QB would win it first.

[Buehler445]

****. I agree with Hootie.

The world is ending.