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DeMarco Murray 16 13.22%
Aaron Rodgers 50 41.32%
Tom Brady 10 8.26%
Andrew Luck 2 1.65%
Peyton Manning 2 1.65%
J.J. Watt 36 29.75%
other 5 4.13%
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Old 12-17-2014, 10:54 AM  
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Interesting debates on these every year, here's one from ESPN.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/12...demarco-murray

Peyton, Rodgers, Brady, Murray, Watt, Luck...

Where would you guys lean? I don't know, part of me tends to lean towards Murray quite honestly. I think Peyton's crazy 2013 year hurts the image of what he's done in 2014, especially when compared against the other QBs that are getting all the MVP talk. Peyton's right there with them.

Aside from all that, I think it's a pretty even race among the QBs in the discussion... I wouldn't give it Watt, I think my vote with be DeMarco.
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Old 12-17-2014, 06:14 PM   #76
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Problem with Romo and a League MVP thing ... he wouldn't get the vote for Team MVP quite honestly, that would be Murray.
And yet in the game and a half the Cowboys played without Romo, they looked like an absolute mess. He's everything to that team.
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Old 12-17-2014, 06:21 PM   #77
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Brady is iffy too. He relies too much on Gronk.

If he gets a single vote it'll be from a Pats homer.
I'm sorry Virus - but after watching him in that SD game - he looked freaking sharp - I mean - quick release, decisiveness etc.... He is poised - I'm afraid to say for certain - but I'd be somewhat surprised if the Pats don't take it all this season - which would be rad because we could say we beat the champs.
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Old 12-17-2014, 06:23 PM   #78
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In my Opinion - Tom is still better than Aaron - But also perhaps a little less consistent. Brady (when he's hitting) is an awesome QB. Just with what I've seen.
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Old 12-17-2014, 06:31 PM   #79
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Old 12-17-2014, 06:34 PM   #80
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I'm sorry Virus - but after watching him in that SD game - he looked freaking sharp - I mean - quick release, decisiveness etc.... He is poised - I'm afraid to say for certain - but I'd be somewhat surprised if the Pats don't take it all this season - which would be rad because we could say we beat the champs.

That's a fair assessment.
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And yet in the game and a half the Cowboys played without Romo, they looked like an absolute mess. He's everything to that team.
Yeah, but to be fair that game was the Cardinals with Carson Palmer.
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Not entirely but TD:INT ratio is weighted far more heavily than yards and completion percentage in my eyes. Particularly when you're looking at a guy with 30+ TDs and less than a handful of INTs. That's just insane.

I don't give two shits about yards and I've stated as much on this board several times.
Yeah, but again - it's not vastly different between Rodgers and the others there when you narrow it down to just those 2 stats. When you look at the body of work, again - pretty equal.

If it's a stats game - that's one thing, but you take into account the team's performance no?
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In my Opinion - Tom is still better than Aaron - But also perhaps a little less consistent. Brady (when he's hitting) is an awesome QB. Just with what I've seen.
That's just silly. Rogers is the most gifted QB I think I've ever seen.
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It's also relative to attempts... Rodgers has a big edge on the INTs per attempt.

TDs
Manning = 1 TD per 13.9 attempts
Rodgers = 1 TD per 13 attempts
Brady = 1 TD per 16.6 attempts

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Manning = 1 INT per 46.9 attempts
Rodgers = 1 INT per 91.6 attempts
Brady = 1 INT per 66.3 attempts
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That's just silly. Rogers is the most gifted QB I think I've ever seen.
Going to agree with this.
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Yeah, but again - it's not vastly different between Rodgers and the others there when you narrow it down to just those 2 stats. When you look at the body of work, again - pretty equal.



If it's a stats game - that's one thing, but you take into account the team's performance no?

I take into account stats, overall team performance (wins), and my eye test.

Rodgers wins the eye test. He has the best arm of the three, moves well in pocket, and runs almost as well as Alex Smith, which is about 10x better than either Peyton or Brady.

Rodgers also wins the stats argument because I weight TD:INT ratio so highly. Yards are nice but ultimately don't indicate stellar QB play. Completion percentage means almost nothing unless it's stellar (>70%) or horrible (<60%).

Overall team performance is a wash. I think they all have the same record or within 1 game of each other. If you asked me who was the best team in the league in week 4 I would have said the Broncos. If you asked in week 8 I would have said the Patriots. If you asked me in week 12 I would have said the Packers. Now id say they're all top 5 with the Seahawks being number 1.
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That last paragraph isn't right because I would have said the Seahawks were the best team in week 4. But if you had asked me who was the best of the three, I would have said the Broncos at that point in time.
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