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View Poll Results: Should steroids be a consideration for HOF voting?
No, steroids are not an issue 12 22.64%
Yes, but not an eliminating factor 17 32.08%
Yes, steroids undermined the game 24 45.28%
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Old 06-19-2012, 02:42 PM  
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Should steroid use determine who is in the HOF?
With the recent Roger Clemens decision, whether players that have been involved with steroids should be part of the baseball HOF has come back into the discussion. Thus far the writers have sent a resounding no to that answer.

Keep in mind that part of the criteria for the baseball hall deals with off the field issues as well. Players like Orlando Cepeda were kept out of the hall for years because of their connections to drugs while borderline players like Keith Hernandez did not even come close to election. The All-time hits king is not even eligible because of betting on baseball.

BTW, there is no Gaz option. If you don't like baseball or don't care about this issue, why are you even reading this?
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Old 06-19-2012, 03:19 PM   #16
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A better question would be, should the media have any say in HOF voting. My answer would be a definitive NO!!!!
Players haven't been much better. The Veterans Committee is famous for ex-players voting their teamates in. The writers are actually ticked at them for dropping the standards by letting in their rejects.
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Old 06-19-2012, 03:21 PM   #17
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no because who the hell cares
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Old 06-19-2012, 03:22 PM   #18
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I think so, but it's a tough call since they weren't against the rules at the time most were using.
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Old 06-19-2012, 03:26 PM   #19
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Players haven't been much better. The Veterans Committee is famous for ex-players voting their teamates in. The writers are actually ticked at them for dropping the standards by letting in their rejects.
Anything, I mean anything would be better than letting the media have a say.
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Old 06-19-2012, 03:39 PM   #20
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Yes, but not an eliminating factor.

Name me an old-school Hall of Famer from the '30s on who you can reasonably say WASN'T using amphetamines. You can't.

Baseball players have been taking things to improve bodily performance for the entire history of the game. Players will always be looking to whatever they can get away with to get an edge.
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Old 06-19-2012, 04:22 PM   #21
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Not a chance that will have anything to do with it.
Yes it will, in my opinion.
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Old 06-19-2012, 04:24 PM   #22
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Steroids or not, those people still went out and did what they did against others using the same shit.
Exactly everyone was juicing.
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Old 06-19-2012, 04:30 PM   #23
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Same media snobs that are HOF voters ate up all of the homeruns and celebrated them. They can stick it with their holier than thou crap now.
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Old 06-19-2012, 04:43 PM   #24
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Who makes the Hall first? Sosa, McGwire, Palmeriro, Bonds, Or Clemons or Johnny Damon? Don't laugh, Damon is only 254 hits away from 3000.
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Who makes the Hall first? Sosa, McGwire, Palmeriro, Bonds, Or Clemons?
Bonds. He will be eligible before Clemens.
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Bonds will get in because the writers don't want to be called racists. Once they let him in it's going to allow Clemens and others to get in.
There are plenty of black dudes already in the HOF.
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There are plenty of black dudes already in the HOF.
From the steroid era?
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From the steroid era?
Ken Griffey Jr will be 1st ballot.
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Ken Griffey Jr will be 1st ballot.
He wasn't associated with Balco or steroids. I'm using Bonds as a standard for guys whose careers have been associated with steroids.
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Here's the way I see it. Steroids help people recover from injuries more quickly. How can you tell someone who is injured, "you can't use steroids to heal faster. You have to just sit there and be injured even though there is a way to heal more quickly"?
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