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**ChiTown** · 05-31-2006, 10:56 AM

Good deal

Royals fire Baird to clear path for hiring Moore as GM
By BOB DUTTON
The Kansas City Star

OAKLAND, Calif. — The Royals fired general manager Allard Baird on this morning in anticipation of announcing the hiring of Atlanta assistant Dayton Moore as his replacement.

The club declined official comment regarding the moves, but Baird confirmed he had been fired.

“I was told this morning,” he said. “Beyond that, I don’t have anything to say.”

Sources say Moore is getting a five-year contract and complete control over baseball operations in a commitment to turn around a franchise that has lost 100 or more games in three of the last four seasons.

Moore, 39, is expected to take control, officially, next week upon completion of baseball’s two-day draft. Sources said assistant general manager Muzzy Jackson will replace Baird on an interim basis.

Moore could not be reached for comment.

Club owner David Glass signaled Baird’s job was in jeopardy April 20 after the Royals fell to 2-12 after a winless nine-game road trip through New York, Tampa Bay and Chicago.

“It has to change quickly,” he said. “We are not willing to wait to see if it gets better. We have to make it get better… If it doesn’t turn around, we’ll have to change things.

“We can’t wait too long. I’m not willing to go through a season like we did last year. None of us are.”

Glass’ patience seemed exhausted by May 4 when he declared: “I’m out of patience. I have never been this frustrated. I’ve got to do something. This can’t continue.”

It was at that point, from all indications, that Glass accelerated his search for a new general manager. He initially hoped to complete the process within a day or two.

It soon became an ordeal that lasted nearly four weeks and effectively paralyzed the organization as Baird’s administrative effectiveness steadily waned amid the mounting speculation of impending change.

Baird, 44, finally called publicly for “closure” earlier this week.

The Royals, ironically, entered Wednesday’s game in search of their first sweep in a road series in nearly three years after victories Monday and Tuesday over the A’s in Oakland.

Even so, their 13-37 record is the worst in baseball and matches the worst in franchise history through 50 games. They were also 13-37 last season, when they finished 56-106.

Moore, 39, will be the sixth general manager in franchise history. He is currently responsible for overseeing all aspects of the Braves’ scouting and player development as an assistant to general manager John Schuerholz.

The Star reported Saturday that Glass offered the job to Moore after more than 10 days of discussions. Sources said Moore wanted written assurance that he would have full and final authority on all baseball-related decisions before accepting the offer.

The Royals were 381-576 in Baird’s tenure, which began June 17, 2000, when he replaced Herk Robinson. He spent 12 previous seasons in the organization in various roles.

The organization’s primary failure under Baird was in its inability to draft and develop high-quality players in recent years. The current 25-man roster has only two players — outfielders David DeJesus and Shane Costa — who were drafted in Baird’s six seasons.

Further, several recent lineups mocked the very idea that the club is engaged in a rebuilding plan. The Royals started five players Tuesday against Oakland who were 30 years or older.

While Baird and his staff succeeded in uncovering some real bargains on the free-agent fringe, they proved far less successful in obtaining top value when forced by financial considerations to trade players such as Johnny Damon, Carlos Beltran and Jermaine Dye.

It was the Beltran trade — on June 24, 2004 — that marked the latest full-scale effort to rebuild their roster. The Royals received catcher John Buck, third baseman Mark Teahen and pitcher Mike Wood in return.

They are also 99-206 since that point.

This year’s disappointing performance comes after Glass authorized a payroll increase that allowed Baird to spend nearly $25 million in the off-season on veteran players to supplement a youthful and often-overmatched roster.

The anticipated mix has been derailed by injuries.

Three of the club’s anticipated starting pitchers — Mark Redman, Denny Bautista and Zack Greinke — have spent time on the disabled list. Greinke and closer Mike MacDougal have been out all season.

Another starter, Runelvys Hernandez, required three-plus weeks of additional conditioning time in the minors before joining the club. He was recently optioned back to Class AAA Omaha because of poor performance.

Injuries also sidelined two of the club’s key regulars: DeJesus and DH Mike Sweeney. DeJesus returned Monday after a 34-game absence, while Sweeney, who has already missed 26 games, isn’t expected back for several more weeks because of a bulging cervical disk in his neck.

To reach Bob Dutton, Royals reporter for The Star, call (816) 234-4352 or send email to bdutton@kcstar.com

sedated · 05-31-2006, 02:56 PM

He will trade the old guys, but that's nothing new.

What would be new, however, is if he got something of value for them.

nascher · 05-31-2006, 02:57 PM

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**petegz28** · 05-31-2006, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by FringeNC

Wonder what his first moves will be. I'd imagine Buddy Bell is gone. I'd like to see him clean house and cut/trade all the players over 30.

I think Bell will get a chance unless there is someone else standing in the wings Moore wants.

If thigs go right players may actually want to play for the Royals. Good players can make any coach look good.

FringeNC · 05-31-2006, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

If thigs go right players may actually want to play for the Royals. Good players can make any coach look good.

The Royals will never be big free-agent players (until IPTV dominates cable TV. Internet revenues are split evenly). The only way the Royals can compete is by having a superior farm system. Right now, we are ranked near the bottom and have been consistently shitty under Robinson - Baird. Atlanta is almost always ranked in the top 10, usually in the top 5.

sedated · 05-31-2006, 03:10 PM

How many times have you seen the headline "Royal Flush"?

Lets have a little originality, people

tk13 · 05-31-2006, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by sedated

How many times have you seen the headline "Royal Flush"?

Lets have a little originality, people

Don't forget "Royal Pain." Right up there with "Chief Concern".

**petegz28** · 05-31-2006, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by FringeNC

The Royals will never be big free-agent players (until IPTV dominates cable TV. Internet revenues are split evenly). The only way the Royals can compete is by having a superior farm system. Right now, we are ranked near the bottom and have been consistently shitty under Robinson - Baird. Atlanta is almost always ranked in the top 10, usually in the top 5.

I agree. But a good farm system also helps bring in the 1 or 2 good free agents you need. Particularly pitching and catching.

**ChiTown** · 05-31-2006, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

I agree. But a good farm system also helps bring in the 1 or 2 good free agents you need. Particularly pitching and catching.

Pitching, pitching, pitching.

Our farm system and ML talent relative to pitching has to be the absolute worst. You put everything we have in a bag, sell it for $500 and call it a good day.

FringeNC · 05-31-2006, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiTown

Pitching, pitching, pitching.

Our farm system and ML talent relative to pitching has to be the absolute worst. You put everything we have in a bag, sell it for $500 and call it a good day.

Do we have ANY pitching prospects? A single one?

**ChiTown** · 05-31-2006, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by FringeNC

Do we have ANY pitching prospects? A single one?

Absolutely NOTHING in AA, nada, zilch, etc

Howell is probably one of the few bright spots in AAA

A Ball - Billy Buckner, maybe Luis Cota (although he's been next to awful thus far), and a few others

It's spartan at best.

tk13 · 05-31-2006, 04:14 PM

I still think we have some guys who could pitch someday.

The problem is, we can't keep anybody healthy. I think that's the real issue. We can't keep a single pitching prospect healthy. Greinke, Affeldt, Hernandez, Bautista, Snyder, Burgos, MacDougal and on and on... have all missed time for one thing or another the last few years. Sometimes guys are going to have growing pains, but they have to be healthy so they can keep going out there every 5th day or every save situation, etc... and keep learning. We haven't been able to do that. Look at the Tigers, Bonderman, Maroth, Robertson, etc... those guys put up some horrible numbers, worse than even some of our pitching prospects, but they were actually able to stay healthy and keep improving, and now they're part of the best staff in the league. Meanwhile our guys can't stay healthy enough to sustain any improvement.

**ChiTown** · 05-31-2006, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13

I still think we have some guys who could pitch someday.

The problem is, we can't keep anybody healthy. I think that's the real issue. We can't keep a single pitching prospect healthy. Greinke, Affeldt, Hernandez, Bautista, Snyder, Burgos, MacDougal and on and on... have all missed time for one thing or another the last few years. Sometimes guys are going to have growing pains, but they have to be healthy so they can keep going out there every 5th day or every save situation, etc... and keep learning. We haven't been able to do that. Look at the Tigers, Bonderman, Maroth, Robertson, etc... those guys put up some horrible numbers, worse than even some of our pitching prospects, but they were actually able to stay healthy and keep improving, and now they're part of the best staff in the league. Meanwhile our guys can't stay healthy enough to sustain any improvement.

True, about the health issues.

But, at some point, you have to draft guys that are healthy specimens (both mentally and physically). The Royals org. has had a knack for drafting guys who become chronically injured (menatally and physically). It's beyond amazing how reliable the stat really is. So, no matter their potential, they aren't worth a spit to the org, or to anyone else, if they can't stay healthy enough to get better as a pitching talent.

So, as I mentioned, we have little, if any, reliable (read: mentally and physically capable) pitching talent.

Mr. Laz · 05-31-2006, 04:25 PM

i think they should of offered Baird a job as assistant GM in charge of the minor league system etc.

i think he's a good guy and has enough talent to warrant trying to keep him in the organization.

BigChiefFan · 05-31-2006, 04:31 PM

I'm sure we will draft some pitchers in the upcoming draft.

FringeNC · 05-31-2006, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiTown

True, about the health issues.

But, at some point, you have to draft guys that are healthy specimens (both mentally and physically). The Royals org. has had a knack for drafting guys who become chronically injured (menatally and physically). It's beyond amazing how reliable the stat really is. So, no matter their potential, they aren't worth a spit to the org, or to anyone else, if they can't stay healthy enough to get better as a pitching talent.

So, as I mentioned, we have little, if any, reliable (read: mentally and physically capable) pitching talent.

Also, I don't understand why they don't try a guy like Andy Sisco as a starter? At least he has some upside. If you are going to lose 115 games, I'd rather it be done with younger players rather than stiffs like Joe Mays.

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ChiTown Stroking to the SB Champs! Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Flatlands of Kansas Casino cash: $3263962	It's official. Moore in, Baird out Good deal Royals fire Baird to clear path for hiring Moore as GM By BOB DUTTON The Kansas City Star OAKLAND, Calif. — The Royals fired general manager Allard Baird on this morning in anticipation of announcing the hiring of Atlanta assistant Dayton Moore as his replacement. The club declined official comment regarding the moves, but Baird confirmed he had been fired. “I was told this morning,” he said. “Beyond that, I don’t have anything to say.” Sources say Moore is getting a five-year contract and complete control over baseball operations in a commitment to turn around a franchise that has lost 100 or more games in three of the last four seasons. Moore, 39, is expected to take control, officially, next week upon completion of baseball’s two-day draft. Sources said assistant general manager Muzzy Jackson will replace Baird on an interim basis. Moore could not be reached for comment. Club owner David Glass signaled Baird’s job was in jeopardy April 20 after the Royals fell to 2-12 after a winless nine-game road trip through New York, Tampa Bay and Chicago. “It has to change quickly,” he said. “We are not willing to wait to see if it gets better. We have to make it get better… If it doesn’t turn around, we’ll have to change things. “We can’t wait too long. I’m not willing to go through a season like we did last year. None of us are.” Glass’ patience seemed exhausted by May 4 when he declared: “I’m out of patience. I have never been this frustrated. I’ve got to do something. This can’t continue.” It was at that point, from all indications, that Glass accelerated his search for a new general manager. He initially hoped to complete the process within a day or two. It soon became an ordeal that lasted nearly four weeks and effectively paralyzed the organization as Baird’s administrative effectiveness steadily waned amid the mounting speculation of impending change. Baird, 44, finally called publicly for “closure” earlier this week. The Royals, ironically, entered Wednesday’s game in search of their first sweep in a road series in nearly three years after victories Monday and Tuesday over the A’s in Oakland. Even so, their 13-37 record is the worst in baseball and matches the worst in franchise history through 50 games. They were also 13-37 last season, when they finished 56-106. Moore, 39, will be the sixth general manager in franchise history. He is currently responsible for overseeing all aspects of the Braves’ scouting and player development as an assistant to general manager John Schuerholz. The Star reported Saturday that Glass offered the job to Moore after more than 10 days of discussions. Sources said Moore wanted written assurance that he would have full and final authority on all baseball-related decisions before accepting the offer. The Royals were 381-576 in Baird’s tenure, which began June 17, 2000, when he replaced Herk Robinson. He spent 12 previous seasons in the organization in various roles. The organization’s primary failure under Baird was in its inability to draft and develop high-quality players in recent years. The current 25-man roster has only two players — outfielders David DeJesus and Shane Costa — who were drafted in Baird’s six seasons. Further, several recent lineups mocked the very idea that the club is engaged in a rebuilding plan. The Royals started five players Tuesday against Oakland who were 30 years or older. While Baird and his staff succeeded in uncovering some real bargains on the free-agent fringe, they proved far less successful in obtaining top value when forced by financial considerations to trade players such as Johnny Damon, Carlos Beltran and Jermaine Dye. It was the Beltran trade — on June 24, 2004 — that marked the latest full-scale effort to rebuild their roster. The Royals received catcher John Buck, third baseman Mark Teahen and pitcher Mike Wood in return. They are also 99-206 since that point. This year’s disappointing performance comes after Glass authorized a payroll increase that allowed Baird to spend nearly $25 million in the off-season on veteran players to supplement a youthful and often-overmatched roster. The anticipated mix has been derailed by injuries. Three of the club’s anticipated starting pitchers — Mark Redman, Denny Bautista and Zack Greinke — have spent time on the disabled list. Greinke and closer Mike MacDougal have been out all season. Another starter, Runelvys Hernandez, required three-plus weeks of additional conditioning time in the minors before joining the club. He was recently optioned back to Class AAA Omaha because of poor performance. Injuries also sidelined two of the club’s key regulars: DeJesus and DH Mike Sweeney. DeJesus returned Monday after a 34-game absence, while Sweeney, who has already missed 26 games, isn’t expected back for several more weeks because of a bulging cervical disk in his neck. To reach Bob Dutton, Royals reporter for The Star, call (816) 234-4352 or send email to bdutton@kcstar.com
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tk13 ... Join Date: Nov 2001 Casino cash: $1952500	I still think we have some guys who could pitch someday. The problem is, we can't keep anybody healthy. I think that's the real issue. We can't keep a single pitching prospect healthy. Greinke, Affeldt, Hernandez, Bautista, Snyder, Burgos, MacDougal and on and on... have all missed time for one thing or another the last few years. Sometimes guys are going to have growing pains, but they have to be healthy so they can keep going out there every 5th day or every save situation, etc... and keep learning. We haven't been able to do that. Look at the Tigers, Bonderman, Maroth, Robertson, etc... those guys put up some horrible numbers, worse than even some of our pitching prospects, but they were actually able to stay healthy and keep improving, and now they're part of the best staff in the league. Meanwhile our guys can't stay healthy enough to sustain any improvement.
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