Chiefs Excerpts from Marty Schottenheimer's book - Page 4

Hammock Parties · 03-01-2013, 04:07 PM

This is one of the best football books you'll read. It's truly fascinating.

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1. Dick Haley (Todd's dad) was a big HS football star at a school not far from Marty's. Haley drove a red convertible and Marty used to see it all the time and get extremely jealous. Marty's first purchase when the Bills drafted him was a red convertible Buick Riviera.

2. Almost everyone in the NFL was rooting for Brian Schottenheimer's Jets to beat AJ Smith's Chargers in the 2009 playoffs, because people hated AJ Smith for firing Marty after going 14-2. Marty had to watch the game from a hotel bar.

3. Marty wanted to be a dentist but failed organic chemistry.

4. Marty was good friends with Joe Namath, to the extent that they went on fishing trips together. Namath once juked Marty in the open field during a Jets-Bills game, and afterwards gave him crap about it.

5. Marty failed in real-estate endeavors and that was why he got into coaching. He got stiffed on a bunch of checks in the WFL, then submitted a scouting report on WFL players to Giants head coach Bill Arnsparger, and eventually got a job with the Giants coaching linebackers because of it.

6. Marty was Cleveland's defensive coordinator when the HC was fired. They offered Marty the interm HC job. He refused and asked for a two-year contract as the full-fledged HC because he knew players didn't respect interim head coaches. Smart move.

7. Art Modell, in all his wisdom, tried to force Marty to make changes to his coaching staff, and that was why he left Cleveland.

8. "One play a time" was coined because Namath juked Marty. After that play, Marty couldn't focus and gave up a TD because of it. After that he resolved to focus only on one play at a time.

9. Carl and Marty had their first interview together getting lost driving around Kansas City. They almost ran out of gas.

10. Lamar Hunt was the selling point for Marty to come to KC. He would do random things like bring a piece of Key Lime Pie to his hotel room late at night during league meetings.

11. A Marty saying you probably haven't heard: "Men, just hang in there like an old sack of balls."

More to come.

**The Bad Guy** · 03-15-2013, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Go to Hell

Oh man, here's a cool story.

Everyone knows about Marty's midnight rule. You move on to the next game by midnight following the last one.

Well, his wife invented it.

Brian was sitting in the car whining about HS game that he had lost and Pat got tired of it and told him he was going to shut up about it by midnight, or else.

Then she told Marty and he was like "Hey, this is cool, I'll use this with my professional football team called the Chiefs."

So holy shit man.

Cool story, bro.

Hammock Parties · 03-15-2013, 06:06 PM

1. Tony Dungy was Marty's first choice to be DC after Bill Cowher left. He actually promised him the job and then changed his mind at the last minute to hire Dave Adolph. Marty apologizes profusely every time he sees Dungy to this day.

2. Marty and Carl used to go bowling alleys, luncheons and breakfast meetings across the midwest, including Nebraska and Iowa, trying to drum up interest in the Chiefs.

3. When all had Marty had was DeBerg and ancient Ron Jaworksi in his first year, he said he felt more comfortable with that than "two 22-year olds."

4. Marty was like the Phantom of the Opera in position meetings. He would show up out of the darkness at completely random times without anyone knowing he had entered ther oom.

5. The KC Times ran a very stupid article Marty's first year after a HS football game was over. The headline was "Marty's son loses, too," in reference to Brian Schottenheimer, who was a QB.

6. After the Chiefs and Browns tied in 1989, people inside the Browns org. referred to the score as Marty 10, Marty 10.

7. Marty predicted that rookie Tim Grunhard would last longer than he would in Kansas City. Sho nuff.

8. The audio meters that measured sound at Arrowhead usually had a needle bouncing up and down throughout the game. The needle stayed at max the entire game against the Bills in 1991.

9. After the Bills pounded the Chiefs in the playoffs that year, Lamar consoled Marty after the game by saying "hey we outscored them if you combine the two games."

10. When Brian Schottenheimer transferred to Florida, everyone called him "Young Schotty."

11. The Cardinals offered Joe Montana $5 million more than the Chiefs but he turned them down because the Cardinals suck.

12. The Chiefs wanted to start Marcus Allen at FB at first and tutor Harvey Williams.

13. Marcus later presented Marty with a photo of himself bleeding in a Chiefs uniform, and signed it "I told you I'd bleed for you!"

14. Requests for Arrowhead press credentials more than doubled when Montana arrived.

15. Marty was shocked Willie Davis caught the game-winning TD at Denver in 1994. He said "Willie drops that 9 times out of 10."

16. Marty would rant about the Raiders during Raiders week and call them nasty names, and one time he said "they're all a bunch of SOBs and they've always been that way." Art Shell was in the room at the time, and Marty stopped, and said "oh, no disrespect intended." Then he went on with his rant some more.

17. Rich Gannon says he learned more about football from Marty than anyone else in his life.

18. One time during camp Gannon threw a pass that was tipped and picked off. Marty chastised him and Gannon said "hey it was a decent pass, it was tipped." And Marty responded "If it was a good pass, it wouldn't have been tipped."

19. During the Chiefs ill-fated last possession against the Broncos in 1997 playoffs, Elvis Grbac's headset malfunctioned and he could barely hear Mike McCarthy. So he called all the plays himself. That ended well.

20. After the 1998 MNF meltdown, Carl told the locker room the team had disgraced themselves and the entire city. Lamar Hunt stood nearby with his hands over his face.

21. Andre Rison nearly got into a fight with a reporter later that year.

22. Marty was originally going to return for the 1999 season, but changed his mind during the offseason. Lamar, Carl and Steadman all begged him to stay. And to this day, Marty has second thoughts about it and wonders...what if.

23. The Patriots, Saints, Jets and Packers all tried to hire Marty before the Redskins did in 2001.

24. Marty went to see Derrick Thomas at the hospital several times when he was trying to recover. He would go with him to therapy every time. On the drive home he would break down crying every time.

25. Dan Snyder gave Marty a 4 year, $10 million contract. He never earned more than 750k in one year with the Chiefs. Cha-ching, baby.

26. Redskins player personnel director Vinny Cerrato was a dick to Marty. He told him "Dan may be listening to you now during the preseason, but wait until I get up into the owner's box during the regular season. Then we'll see who he listens to." Marty had him fired.

27. Deion Sanders retired because he didn't want to fall in line with Marty's rules.

28. Brian had to ask Marty several times if he could interview for the QB Coach job in Washington. When Marty finally relented, they had an interview which was interrupted because Marty wanted to interview Chris Palmer. Brian got up at 4 AM the next day to finish the interview...and was hired.

29. The Redskins tried to cut corners and save money by taking people out of the media guide, like the head groundskeeper. Marty insisted everyone be included, and told them he'd pay for it himself if he had to.

Deberg_1990 · 03-15-2013, 06:23 PM

Does Marty mention how it felt to finally win a Pro championship?
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**notorious** · 03-15-2013, 06:29 PM

You don't want to here this, but I am going to say it:

Marty deserved a Super Bowl. It's a tragedy he never got it.

**KcMizzou** · 03-15-2013, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Go to Hell

5. The KC Times ran a very stupid article Marty's first year after a HS football game was over. The headline was "Marty's son loses, too," in reference to Brian Schottenheimer, who was a QB.

The what?

Hammock Parties · 03-15-2013, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by KcMizzou

The what?

The Kansas City Times.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kansas_City_Times

Hammock Parties · 03-15-2013, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by notorious

You don't want to here this, but I am going to say it:

Marty deserved a Super Bowl. It's a tragedy he never got it.

I think Marty wins a SB if he stays in KC.

They would have retained Rich Gannon most likely, because Grbac was horrendous in 1998.

Marty also basically admitted in the book he learned from his personnel mistakes in 1998.

GoChargers · 03-15-2013, 06:40 PM

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2. Almost everyone in the NFL was rooting for Brian Schottenheimer's Jets to beat AJ Smith's Chargers in the 2009 playoffs, because people hated AJ Smith for firing Marty after going 14-2.

Why am I not surprised that the NFL in general loves Marty? He'd hand all the other teams free wins in the playoffs, after all.

**KcMizzou** · 03-15-2013, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Go to Hell

The Kansas City Times.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kansas_City_Times

Huh. I'll be damned.

**Buzz** · 03-15-2013, 06:49 PM

I was done with Marty and Carl as soon as they put in Grbac over Gannon. That cost us our Superbowl right there. I can still remember thinking that was the dumbest thing ever. Still irritates the crap out of me.

MTG#10 · 03-15-2013, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by seaofred

What is the name of the book?

http://www.amazon.com/Martyball-Triu.../dp/1613212135

**Easy 6** · 03-15-2013, 07:47 PM

#11 - Cardinals offered Montana $5 million more than KC... wow, it really wasnt about the money for Joe, he just wanted to win... he'd suffer coming to an ascending, respectable team to close things out, but he sure as hell wasnt going to stoop to some total dump like the early 90's cards

*elvis softly hums* memoriiies, pressed between the pages of my miiind...

#15 - Willie Davis drops that 9 times out of 10... yikes, those are some tough words for a former player, we apparently werent the only people lamenting the lack of any real stud receivers for Joe.

God bless Marty, he fielded the most consistent winners we've had in a looong time... those were the days, atleast for me.

KC_Lee · 03-15-2013, 07:57 PM

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8. The audio meters that measured sound at Arrowhead usually had a needle bouncing up and down throughout the game. The needle stayed at max the entire game against the Bills in 1991.

That was a Monday night game IIRC. Was at that game, fun times.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 03-15-2013, 10:01 PM

Marty used to punt on fourth and inches. Drove me batshit crazy. Did I mention he had Marcus Allen at the time?
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**DaneMcCloud** · 03-15-2013, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by KcMizzou

The what?

It was tiny and worthless. I'd have to grab it off the driveway everyday when I came home from school, especially in the winter, or it would be covered in ice, snow and my Dad's car.

I don't think anyone missed it.

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Hammock Parties I'll be back. Join Date: Nov 2002 Casino cash: $4710478	1. Tony Dungy was Marty's first choice to be DC after Bill Cowher left. He actually promised him the job and then changed his mind at the last minute to hire Dave Adolph. Marty apologizes profusely every time he sees Dungy to this day. 2. Marty and Carl used to go bowling alleys, luncheons and breakfast meetings across the midwest, including Nebraska and Iowa, trying to drum up interest in the Chiefs. 3. When all had Marty had was DeBerg and ancient Ron Jaworksi in his first year, he said he felt more comfortable with that than "two 22-year olds." 4. Marty was like the Phantom of the Opera in position meetings. He would show up out of the darkness at completely random times without anyone knowing he had entered ther oom. 5. The KC Times ran a very stupid article Marty's first year after a HS football game was over. The headline was "Marty's son loses, too," in reference to Brian Schottenheimer, who was a QB. 6. After the Chiefs and Browns tied in 1989, people inside the Browns org. referred to the score as Marty 10, Marty 10. 7. Marty predicted that rookie Tim Grunhard would last longer than he would in Kansas City. Sho nuff. 8. The audio meters that measured sound at Arrowhead usually had a needle bouncing up and down throughout the game. The needle stayed at max the entire game against the Bills in 1991. 9. After the Bills pounded the Chiefs in the playoffs that year, Lamar consoled Marty after the game by saying "hey we outscored them if you combine the two games." 10. When Brian Schottenheimer transferred to Florida, everyone called him "Young Schotty." 11. The Cardinals offered Joe Montana $5 million more than the Chiefs but he turned them down because the Cardinals suck. 12. The Chiefs wanted to start Marcus Allen at FB at first and tutor Harvey Williams. 13. Marcus later presented Marty with a photo of himself bleeding in a Chiefs uniform, and signed it "I told you I'd bleed for you!" 14. Requests for Arrowhead press credentials more than doubled when Montana arrived. 15. Marty was shocked Willie Davis caught the game-winning TD at Denver in 1994. He said "Willie drops that 9 times out of 10." 16. Marty would rant about the Raiders during Raiders week and call them nasty names, and one time he said "they're all a bunch of SOBs and they've always been that way." Art Shell was in the room at the time, and Marty stopped, and said "oh, no disrespect intended." Then he went on with his rant some more. 17. Rich Gannon says he learned more about football from Marty than anyone else in his life. 18. One time during camp Gannon threw a pass that was tipped and picked off. Marty chastised him and Gannon said "hey it was a decent pass, it was tipped." And Marty responded "If it was a good pass, it wouldn't have been tipped." 19. During the Chiefs ill-fated last possession against the Broncos in 1997 playoffs, Elvis Grbac's headset malfunctioned and he could barely hear Mike McCarthy. So he called all the plays himself. That ended well. 20. After the 1998 MNF meltdown, Carl told the locker room the team had disgraced themselves and the entire city. Lamar Hunt stood nearby with his hands over his face. 21. Andre Rison nearly got into a fight with a reporter later that year. 22. Marty was originally going to return for the 1999 season, but changed his mind during the offseason. Lamar, Carl and Steadman all begged him to stay. And to this day, Marty has second thoughts about it and wonders...what if. 23. The Patriots, Saints, Jets and Packers all tried to hire Marty before the Redskins did in 2001. 24. Marty went to see Derrick Thomas at the hospital several times when he was trying to recover. He would go with him to therapy every time. On the drive home he would break down crying every time. 25. Dan Snyder gave Marty a 4 year, $10 million contract. He never earned more than 750k in one year with the Chiefs. Cha-ching, baby. 26. Redskins player personnel director Vinny Cerrato was a dick to Marty. He told him "Dan may be listening to you now during the preseason, but wait until I get up into the owner's box during the regular season. Then we'll see who he listens to." Marty had him fired. 27. Deion Sanders retired because he didn't want to fall in line with Marty's rules. 28. Brian had to ask Marty several times if he could interview for the QB Coach job in Washington. When Marty finally relented, they had an interview which was interrupted because Marty wanted to interview Chris Palmer. Brian got up at 4 AM the next day to finish the interview...and was hired. 29. The Redskins tried to cut corners and save money by taking people out of the media guide, like the head groundskeeper. Marty insisted everyone be included, and told them he'd pay for it himself if he had to. __________________ Chiefs game films
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Buzz I like Pie! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: In my garage Casino cash: $10016623	I was done with Marty and Carl as soon as they put in Grbac over Gannon. That cost us our Superbowl right there. I can still remember thinking that was the dumbest thing ever. Still irritates the crap out of me.
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Easy 6 pie is never free Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: the drivers seat Casino cash: $3727775	#11 - Cardinals offered Montana $5 million more than KC... wow, it really wasnt about the money for Joe, he just wanted to win... he'd suffer coming to an ascending, respectable team to close things out, but he sure as hell wasnt going to stoop to some total dump like the early 90's cards elvis softly hums memoriiies, pressed between the pages of my miiind... #15 - Willie Davis drops that 9 times out of 10... yikes, those are some tough words for a former player, we apparently werent the only people lamenting the lack of any real stud receivers for Joe. God bless Marty, he fielded the most consistent winners we've had in a looong time... those were the days, atleast for me.
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