Chiefs New-Look Chiefs Turning Attention to NFL Draft - Page 18

FringeNC · 05:47 PM

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The wholesale overhaul of the Kansas City Chiefs is nearly complete.

Andy Reid has been hired to replace Romeo Crennel as coach, and longtime Packers personnel man John Dorsey has replaced Scott ***** as general manager. Most of the assistant coaches are on board, and now the Chiefs can start turning their attention toward the rebuilding job.

That includes preparation for the NFL draft.

The Chiefs finished 2-14 last season, matching the worst record in their 53-year history. But the byproduct of all that on-field suffering is that they have the No. 1 pick for the first time, giving Kansas City a good place to start turning around the team.

"We're in a unique position," said Dorsey, who will work closely with Reid but have final say over personnel decisions. "We all know there is some pressure involved in that."

It is pressure unlike anything he's ever experienced.

Dorsey began his career as a scout for the Packers, and eventually rose to direct of college scouting and director of football operations. But his primary responsibility was assembling the draft board, and the final decision ultimately came down to the Packers' GM — Tom Braatz early in his career, Ron Wolf and Mike Sherman after that, and most recently Ted Thompson.

Now, when the final seconds are ticking away on April 25, all eyes in the Kansas City draft room will turn toward Dorsey for a decision that could shape the future of the franchise.

"Ultimately, we're just trying to win Super Bowls. That's what we're trying to do," said Dorsey, adding that he plans to use a similar blueprint to Green Bay.

"History and time has proven — and that's all I know — but this system works," Dorsey said Monday. "That's what I'm going to try to implement."

Examining the Packers' drafts over the past two decades yields a few ideas about how Dorsey will proceed: He'll likely choose the best player of available, regardless of position needs, but also understands the importance of drafting for depth at quarterback.

Many outsiders panned the choice of quarterback Aaron Rodgers when Brett Favre was firmly ensconced in Green Bay, and Rodgers has turned into a Super Bowl champion. Matt Flynn was picked in the seventh round and became a valuable commodity as a backup, while other guys such as Matt Hasselbeck and Aaron Brooks developed into starters elsewhere in the NFL.

"What we've always tried to do is develop a third guy," Dorsey said, "and develop him and see if he can be a 2 or a 1."

By contrast, the Chiefs have spent only one pick — a fifth-rounder — on a quarterback in the past six drafts, and the result has been disastrous play at the game's marquee position.

Matt Cassel is still under contract, even though he was benched last season. Brady Quinn played just as poorly, while Ricky Stanzi never saw the field during the regular season.

"Any time when you begin to build a franchise, let's be real, the quarterback is a very important part," Dorsey said. "As you note the last couple weeks in the playoffs, the quarterback position is a very important position to the long-term success of the organization."

Important enough to spend the No. 1 overall pick on it?

Not necessarily.

Dorsey and Reid both insisted they plan to draft the best player available, and that may not be a quarterback. West Virginia's Geno Smith is widely considered the best prospect at his position, but some draft analysts believe he's only worthy of a late first-round selection.

"My draft philosophy, you'd love to get good players. That's the primary thing," Reid said. "As the general manager comes in, that's what he's going to do. That's his responsibility."

It's not as if the Chiefs don't have other needs.

Left tackle Branden Albert and wide receiver Dwayne Bowe can both become free agents, and there are gaping holes along the defensive line, at linebacker and in the secondary. And it just so happens that some of the best available players fit those needs: Texas A&M offensive tackle Luke Joeckel, Florida State defensive end Bjoern Werner and George linebacker Jarvis Jones.

One thing that Dorsey made clear is that he won't reach for a player.

"Philosophically, you stay true to your board," he said. "You spend all those months staying true to your board, and all of a sudden you have to jump a player due to positional needs? I don't think you do that. Historically, we have proven you don't do that."

Dorsey plans to keep the Chiefs scouting department intact through the draft, but he's also bringing with him an entire season's worth of his own scouting work from Green Bay.

That will be augmented by work done at college all-star games, various pro days organized by schools, the annual scouting combine and from hour upon hour of highlight tapes.

"It's going to be a focus of our fans, the media and our personnel department here for the next three or so months," Chiefs chairman Clark Hunt said of the No. 1 pick. "It's very important we get that pick right."

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Mr. Laz · 01-16-2013, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by KC Tattoo

I am going be one pissed off mother ****er if we don't draft Geno Smith. ****ing bull shit if we don't.

Fire up the plane!!

Break out the banners!!

IAmABabySeal · 01-16-2013, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by SNR

I was mocking him. CoMo posted a mock draft that had the Chiefs drafting Teo at #1 and then drafting Tyler Wilson in the 2nd round.

Oh, and if that doesn't make him enough of an idiot, he said we need to draft Tyrann Mathieu in the 3rd.

Te'o #1

Forgive me...I'm quickly learning who actually knows footballs around these parts.

IAmABabySeal · 01-16-2013, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing

Just so we're clear: Your proposal to fix one of the most atrocious offenses in NFL history....led by historically bad QB play....is to Draft a LT and pick up the 5th-6th best QB prospect in the draft.

That's your recipe for success, right?

Being who? Pay attention, I said I don't like Geno at #1

ModSocks · 01-16-2013, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by IAmABabySeal

Being who? Pay attention, I said I don't like Geno at #1

We're not talking about Geno. We're talking about your idea of waiting till the later rounds to address the QB position, since afterall, that is what you suggested. I guess you think Dysert is going to come in and fix the QB position. That is your plan right? Because the top 3-4 QB's likely won't make it out of the 1st round.

**RealSNR** · 01-16-2013, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing

We're not talking about Geno. We're talking about your idea of waiting till the later rounds to address the QB position, since afterall, that is what you suggested. I guess you think Dysert is going to come in and fix the QB position. That is your plan right? Because the top 3-4 QB's likely won't make it out of the 1st round.

I was fully on board with the Chiefs losing so we could cleanse the team of Pioli's filth and ensure a draft slot where we could find our franchise QB.

I didn't come all this way for Zac ****ing Dysert and a rookie LT. I think that's what some Chiefs fans are forgetting. The #1 overall pick should ENERGIZE your fan base. Fans shouldn't shrug their shoulders after the pick and say, "Well, we got a marginal upgrade at LT. I guess now that we're set up for success on the offensive line, let's punt and see what the 2014 draft brings. Baby steps, people, baby steps. Rome wasn't built in a day."

htismaqe · 01-16-2013, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR

Russell Wilson

Well, it's happened once so I guess we're screwed.

IAmABabySeal · 01-16-2013, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing

We're not talking about Geno. We're talking about your idea of waiting till the later rounds to address the QB position, since afterall, that is what you suggested. I guess you think Dysert is going to come in and fix the QB position. That is your plan right? Because the top 3-4 QB's likely won't make it out of the 1st round.

I never said that was gonna fix your QB situation. I was stating who I like in the draft from a perceived value stand point pre Senior Bowl, combine, and interviews.
I loved Nick Foles and Russell Wilson last year, LeFevour the year prior...this year I like Dysert as that 3rd/4th round QB who has a chance to be a gem. That's what I'm saying.

boogblaster · 01-16-2013, 12:35 PM

QB needed .. either thru draft or FA .. who's out there at FA ...

milkman · 01-16-2013, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by boogblaster

QB needed .. either thru draft or FA .. who's out there at FA ...

**** off.

**RealSNR** · 01-16-2013, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by IAmABabySeal

I never said that was gonna fix your QB situation. I was stating who I like in the draft from a perceived value stand point pre Senior Bowl, combine, and interviews.
I loved Nick Foles and Russell Wilson last year, LeFevour the year prior...this year I like Dysert as that 3rd/4th round QB who has a chance to be a gem. That's what I'm saying.

Great. We can draft another Brodie Croyle, who will give us just enough promise to ignore QB YET AGAIN in the next few years.

Chief_For_Life58 · 01-16-2013, 01:42 PM

im all for dysert in the later rounds to back up Geno Thunder Dick this coming year and then we can trade him for something next year or the year after. He looks like an interesting prospect. We need an immediate day one starter for 2013. Geno, Tyler, or Giraffe Neck.

htismaqe · 01-16-2013, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by IAmABabySeal

I never said that was gonna fix your QB situation. I was stating who I like in the draft from a perceived value stand point pre Senior Bowl, combine, and interviews.
I loved Nick Foles and Russell Wilson last year, LeFevour the year prior...this year I like Dysert as that 3rd/4th round QB who has a chance to be a gem. That's what I'm saying.

A 1% chance.

jd1020 · 01-16-2013, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief_For_Life58

im all for dysert in the later rounds to back up Geno Thunder Dick this coming year and then we can trade him for something next year or the year after. He looks like an interesting prospect. We need an immediate day one starter for 2013. Geno, Tyler, or Giraffe Neck.

GTFO with that shit.

Chief_For_Life58 · 01-16-2013, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020

GTFO with that shit.

do u prefer Ostrich neck instead?

silver5liter · 01-16-2013, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief_For_Life58

do u prefer Ostrich neck instead?

Glennon is a media-baby hype player man. Watch his games he isnt very good.

01-15-2013, 05:17 PM
FringeNC MVP Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: NC Casino cash: $1816014	New-Look Chiefs Turning Attention to NFL Draft http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/wireSto...inglePage=true The wholesale overhaul of the Kansas City Chiefs is nearly complete. Andy Reid has been hired to replace Romeo Crennel as coach, and longtime Packers personnel man John Dorsey has replaced Scott *** as general manager. Most of the assistant coaches are on board, and now the Chiefs can start turning their attention toward the rebuilding job. That includes preparation for the NFL draft. The Chiefs finished 2-14 last season, matching the worst record in their 53-year history. But the byproduct of all that on-field suffering is that they have the No. 1 pick for the first time, giving Kansas City a good place to start turning around the team. "We're in a unique position," said Dorsey, who will work closely with Reid but have final say over personnel decisions. "We all know there is some pressure involved in that." It is pressure unlike anything he's ever experienced. Dorsey began his career as a scout for the Packers, and eventually rose to direct of college scouting and director of football operations. But his primary responsibility was assembling the draft board, and the final decision ultimately came down to the Packers' GM — Tom Braatz early in his career, Ron Wolf and Mike Sherman after that, and most recently Ted Thompson. Now, when the final seconds are ticking away on April 25, all eyes in the Kansas City draft room will turn toward Dorsey for a decision that could shape the future of the franchise. "Ultimately, we're just trying to win Super Bowls. That's what we're trying to do," said Dorsey, adding that he plans to use a similar blueprint to Green Bay. "History and time has proven — and that's all I know — but this system works," Dorsey said Monday. "That's what I'm going to try to implement." Examining the Packers' drafts over the past two decades yields a few ideas about how Dorsey will proceed: He'll likely choose the best player of available, regardless of position needs, but also understands the importance of drafting for depth at quarterback. Many outsiders panned the choice of quarterback Aaron Rodgers when Brett Favre was firmly ensconced in Green Bay, and Rodgers has turned into a Super Bowl champion. Matt Flynn was picked in the seventh round and became a valuable commodity as a backup, while other guys such as Matt Hasselbeck and Aaron Brooks developed into starters elsewhere in the NFL. "What we've always tried to do is develop a third guy," Dorsey said, "and develop him and see if he can be a 2 or a 1." By contrast, the Chiefs have spent only one pick — a fifth-rounder — on a quarterback in the past six drafts, and the result has been disastrous play at the game's marquee position. Matt Cassel is still under contract, even though he was benched last season. Brady Quinn played just as poorly, while Ricky Stanzi never saw the field during the regular season. "Any time when you begin to build a franchise, let's be real, the quarterback is a very important part," Dorsey said. "As you note the last couple weeks in the playoffs, the quarterback position is a very important position to the long-term success of the organization." Important enough to spend the No. 1 overall pick on it? Not necessarily. Dorsey and Reid both insisted they plan to draft the best player available, and that may not be a quarterback. West Virginia's Geno Smith is widely considered the best prospect at his position, but some draft analysts believe he's only worthy of a late first-round selection. "My draft philosophy, you'd love to get good players. That's the primary thing," Reid said. "As the general manager comes in, that's what he's going to do. That's his responsibility." It's not as if the Chiefs don't have other needs. Left tackle Branden Albert and wide receiver Dwayne Bowe can both become free agents, and there are gaping holes along the defensive line, at linebacker and in the secondary. And it just so happens that some of the best available players fit those needs: Texas A&M offensive tackle Luke Joeckel, Florida State defensive end Bjoern Werner and George linebacker Jarvis Jones. One thing that Dorsey made clear is that he won't reach for a player.** "Philosophically, you stay true to your board," he said. "You spend all those months staying true to your board, and all of a sudden you have to jump a player due to positional needs? I don't think you do that. Historically, we have proven you don't do that." Dorsey plans to keep the Chiefs scouting department intact through the draft, but he's also bringing with him an entire season's worth of his own scouting work from Green Bay. That will be augmented by work done at college all-star games, various pro days organized by schools, the annual scouting combine and from hour upon hour of highlight tapes. "It's going to be a focus of our fans, the media and our personnel department here for the next three or so months," Chiefs chairman Clark Hunt said of the No. 1 pick. "It's very important we get that pick right." ——— Last edited by FringeNC; 01-15-2013 at 05:47 PM.. Reason: bold parts as requested for the pathologically lazy
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Chief_For_Life58 Veteran Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: KC Casino cash: $9925938	im all for dysert in the later rounds to back up Geno Thunder Dick this coming year and then we can trade him for something next year or the year after. He looks like an interesting prospect. We need an immediate day one starter for 2013. Geno, Tyler, or Giraffe Neck.
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