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Old 01-06-2014, 03:01 PM  
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My cunning plan to fix the NFL draft order and why it's a problem

EDIT: Here's your new 2014 NFL draft order. Or how it should be under my method:

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Okay, so this will never ****ing happen, unless Clark Hunt or some big time dickswinger reads Chiefs Planet. I acknowledge that. But just as a thought exercise, I was trying to figure out a way that the NFL might possibly fix its biggest problem-- the fact that Andrew Luck plays for the Indianapolis Colts and why it really is a problem not only for nearly all of the NFL's fans but also for the money-grubbing asshole executives who run the league.

To cut down on space for the TL;DR folks, I'm spoilering my reasoning for why the draft order determining method needs to be changed. I strongly encourage you to read it before ripping my idea to shreds. Otherwise I'll tell you to go fist your sister.

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How the new draft order will work:

1. All tiebreakers from strength of schedule to the coin flip will stay they same. The tiebreakers aren't the issue here, but if you have a more elegant solution, I'd love to hear about it.

2. Seeding for playoff teams (21-32) will stay the same.

3. Seeding for slots 1-20 will be based on the COMBINED W/L record of the past THREE seasons.

4. That's it. The rest stays the same. Rookie contract slotting, trading, everything.


By ranking non-playoff teams in order of combined record over many seasons, you improve the league in so many ways. Here are just a few:

1. You eliminate the possibility of a team that just conveniently got bad in a good draft year for a top QB (or other player, I guess). In this scenario, the Colts would have been still at home ****ing themselves with dildos because they suck. That's the most important reason to do this.

2. There will be fewer exceptionally shitty divisions. And while this problem usually gets solved within a few seasons (See NFC West before 2012, AFC West before 2013), there is still always a lemon division out there that can mess with determining who the real best teams are for the playoffs and who just got a good schedule. Fixing that so shitty teams have a better chance to raise the basement level of the division would go a long way. It would further confirm the Parcells mantra: "You are what your record says you are." And that's what we want, right?

3. Good teams that just get bit in the ass one year (2013 Houston Texans) have no incentive to lose hope and say "**** it." In other words, in this system now teams actually DO play to win the game. Your season might be over, but you're still not gonna get a grand prize for losing, other than the chance to fire your shithead Patriot Way general manager and all his pussydick cronies and henchmen. You gotta be REALLY terrible in order to get that treasure, which isn't worth it to any team. The competition bar would be raised, and even late-season games with terrible teams would have some better entertainment value.

Thus, the TRULY terrible teams are guaranteed the top spots. And I think that's what the draft should be all about-- giving the worst teams the best chance to get out of that losing pit.

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Old 01-06-2014, 03:36 PM   #31
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So another idea the NFL would never do: Make players who are re-signed by their team from the previous year count against the cap at 75% of their standard cap figure. This should increase player retention so fans can actually root for their players and buy their jerseys without worrying about them running off to another team.
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Old 01-06-2014, 04:03 PM   #32
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Texans would be picking 14th this year rather than first.

Did they tank like Indy? Is tanking an AFCS specialty?
This is pretty close to the actual 2013 draft order. It's just more accurate to prevent teams like the Texans from taking the #1 overall spot.

Had it been in place last year, the Chiefs would have probably benefitted from not being forced into picking for positional value, since they wouldn't have had the #1 overall pick.

I think it's a good thing, anyway.

20. Ravens (8-8, 10-6, 12-4) 30-18
19. Steelers (8-8, 8-8, 12-4) 28-20
18. Falcons (10-6, 13-3, 4-12) 27-21
17. Bears (8-8, 10-6, 8-8) 26-22
16. Giants (9-7, 9-7, 7-9) 25-23
t-15. Cowboys (8-8, 8-8, 8-8) 24-24
t-14. Houston (2-14, 12-4, 10-6) 24-24
13. Cardinals (8-8, 5-11, 10-6) 23-25
t-12. New York Jets (8-8, 6-10, 8-8) 22-26
t-11. Tennessee (7-9, 6-10, 9-7) 22-26
t-10. Lions (10-6, 4-12, 7-9) 21-27
t-9. Miami (6-10, 7-9, 8-8) 21-27
8. Vikings (3-13, 10-6, 5-10-1) 18-29-1
t-7. Redskins (5-11, 10-6, 3-13) 18-30
t-6. Buffalo (6-10, 6-10, 6-10) 18-30
5. Rams (2-14, 7-8-1, 7-9) 16-31-1
4. Bucs (4-12, 7-9, 4-12) 15-33
3. Browns (4-12, 5-11, 4-12) 13-35
2. Oakland (4-12, 4-12, 4-12) 12-36
1. Jacksonville (4-12, 2-14, 5-11) 11-37
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Zach Lowe wrote an entire article about this related to the NBA Draft on Grantland about two weeks ago.
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Zach Lowe wrote an entire article about this related to the NBA Draft on Grantland about two weeks ago.
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So how would you handle teams that go from 2 years of playoffs to one shitty year? Do you still include the total of 3 years? Basically they just get moved way to the back of the line, i.e. #20?
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So how would you handle teams that go from 2 years of playoffs to one shitty year? Do you still include the total of 3 years? Basically they just get moved way to the back of the line, i.e. #20?
Correct. Because in theory they're not as bad as a team that has not made the playoffs two years in a row and still has a shitty record.
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OP updated with the new draft order 1-20
FWIW, the .5x,1x,2x method gives you this order with weighted average number of wins.

1. Jacksonville 4.667
2. Cleveland 5
3. Chokeland 5.333
4.t Washington 6.333
4.t Houston 6.333
6.t Tampa 6.667
6.t Buffalo 6.667
8. Detroit 7
9. Minnesota 7.167
10. Tennessee 7.667
11. St Loser 8.167
12. Miami 8.667
13. Dallas 9
14.t NYJ 9.167
14.t Arizona 9.167
14.t Atlanta 9.167
17. NYG 9.333
18.t Chicago 10
18.t Pittsburgh 10
20. Baltimore 10.667
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That's why I made it three seasons instead of two. It's pretty damn difficult to anticipate a draft class two or more seasons ahead. And it's pretty hard to intentionally lose for that long.



And the best part of this is that once the teams who got that extra boost make the postseason, their benefits are cut off. A team that starts from nothing but puts together two pretty damn good draft classes in back-to-back years is now cut off from the system once they can walk on their own. The very year they make the playoffs, those terrible records the two previous years don't matter. They're big boys, and now they have to fend for themselves.

I can just imagine a scenario where a team has been shit for two years. They've hired a new coach, drafted a few young pieces, and are on the verge. With a few FA moves, they could be a legit wild card contender.
Instead of doing that, though, they decide the missing piece is at the top of the next draft, and sign below avg FAs to get to the salary floor, and tank the season in hopes of getting Andrew Luck.
It's essentially the same as it is now, but with that extra year.
Not a huge problem, but I could see that scenario.
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