Sac's 2014 Chiefs Mock Draft

[Mav]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

I haven't watched a ton of him. I saw more Josh Gordon/ Andre Johnson in him though.

Calvin. Hes just a different animal period.

[Mav]

Coleman went to Virginia?

What the hell is doing in two separate videos wearing Rutgers GEAR.


Someone is going to be NO HAPPY.

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace

Coleman went to Virginia?

What the hell is doing in two separate videos wearing Rutgers GEAR.


Someone is going to be NO HAPPY.

Thank you for noticing.

Ass.

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by Direckshun

Please don't compare anybody to Calvin Johnson.

Kind regards,

Direckshun

You silly goose. I specifically said he wasn't Megatron. Right now, he's in the large grey area between Johnson and Baldwin - guys with size and potential, and who has achieved potential and who has not.

Coleman definitely has the size and the potential. As I stated, he most likely would have been a top half, first round draft pick next year as all the top juniors seem to have declared. And unlike Baldwin, Coleman is incredibly effective in coming off the line against press coverage (something that Baldwin was flat out horrible at).

Huge ceiling with the guy.

[The Franchise]

You just advocated giving Kendrick Lewis a new contract. You're dead to me.

[aturnis]

Originally Posted by Pestilence

You just advocated giving Kendrick Lewis a new contract. You're dead to me.

This.

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by aturnis

This.

I know the guy had a shit season. Horrible. Putrid.

But he also had a pretty darn good rookie season. I don't see guys just going in the tank that fast. There has got to be some middle ground there.

Perhaps it was scheme. Perhaps it was his injury that made him tentative. I don't know. I just don't know. He obviously blew, the scheme blew or something, because the offenses we played went after that area of the field like a hungry chicken after a hot horse turd.

Right now, they definitely need somebody back there that can turn on a ball and get into the right position in a deep zone.

That's why I have Zimmerman in my mock. He's as good as anybody at the position in this draft class at playing the ball in the air. Really solid player.

And I'd be pretty okay with Berry and Abdullah starting and Commings and Zimmerman as your reserves/nickel/dime guys.

[aturnis]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

I know the guy had a shit season. Horrible. Putrid.

But he also had a pretty darn good rookie season. I don't see guys just going in the tank that fast. There has got to be some middle ground there.

Perhaps it was scheme. Perhaps it was his injury that made him tentative. I don't know. I just don't know. He obviously blew, the scheme blew or something, because the offenses we played went after that area of the field like a hungry chicken after a hot horse turd.

Right now, they definitely need somebody back there that can turn on a ball and get into the right position in a deep zone.

That's why I have Zimmerman in my mock. He's as good as anybody at the position in this draft class at playing the ball in the air. Really solid player.

And I'd be pretty okay with Berry and Abdullah starting and Commings and Zimmerman as your reserves/nickel/dime guys.

That was also before he destroyed his shoulder causing him to favor it and making him an even worse tackler than he already was. Even if he was good in coverage, he's such a liability as a tackler that he has to go.

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by aturnis

That was also before he destroyed his shoulder causing him to favor it and making him an even worse tackler than he already was. Even if he was good in coverage, he's such a liability as a tackler that he has to go.

I know...

It just bothers me that he flashed some serious potential his rookie season. I thought he soundly outplayed Berry that year.

And I'm sure the shoulder situation has something to do with it. The position is a brutal position to play - you've got to keep your weight down to be effective going against speed guys, but then you are still asked to deal with huge tight ends, power backs, and then you've got to worry about getting clobbered by OL guys pulling out on the second level. It's no wonder that the safety guys always seem to be injured these days.

But it's really not the tackling that bothered me this past season, it was his inability to be in his spot in the zone or cover the back routes effectively. He was flat out horrible, where he didn't have much of a problem with it in previous seasons. And I've seen where it looks like that position is a serious premium under Sutton and his man press scheme.

That back safety is asked to cover a lot of ground and if our front seven isn't pressuring the QB, that safety is basically screwed with any type of accurate QB. It's a lot to ask, and as such, the position in this scheme is going to require a guy who not only has good ball skills, but the hyper athleticism to be able to react to either side of the back field quickly. Either that or the guy has to have Luke Kuechly level football instincts to go along with very good speed (as Kuechly has at the ILB spot).

I just don't know. I don't necessarily see anybody in the draft like that. I love Zimmerman's instincts, but I don't know about his speed at the next level for this system.

Personally, we had all better hope that Commings turns it on this off-season. He's got the speed required, and I liked what I saw from him at Georgia in terms of tackling and ball skills. He's got a thick build as well. If he makes the necessary strides, we've already got our man. If he doesn't, I think we're basically ****ed again.

[aturnis]

Kendrick Lewis WATCHED Andrew Luck pick up a fumble and score a touchdown. He literally did not attempt to take him.

When he's unemployed, I will dance.

[Mav]

Originally Posted by aturnis

Kendrick Lewis WATCHED Andrew Luck pick up a fumble and score a touchdown. He literally did not attempt to take him.

When he's unemployed, I will dance.

You won't miss the tackle by getting run over and holding on for dear life that Lewis patented?

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace

You won't miss the tackle by getting run over and holding on for dear life that Lewis patented?

Like I said, they better pray to the gods of football that Sanders Commings gets it this off-season. Otherwise, they/we are going to be in for more of the same, although I think Abdullah made significant strides towards the end of the season after taking a year off.

[RunKC]

1. Calvin Pryor S Louisville
3. Jared Abbrederis WR Wisconsin

My God I would JIMP if that happened.

[BryanBusby]

Calvin Pryor in the first round would be a dumbass pick.

Sounds like something Andy would do.

[OldSchool]

Originally Posted by BryanBusby

Calvin Pryor in the first round would be a dumbass pick.

Sounds like something Andy would do.

Imo, none of the safeties are worth a round 1 pick, Haha is an overrated second round prospect as well.