Football Expectations and Alex Smith - Page 25

keg in kc · 03-23-2013, 03:29 PM

Just curious. Inspired by the ongoing thread about "Geno fan" expectations, and I'm curious what the thinking is on the other side of the fence. What do people expect out of Alex Smith over the next, let's say, 2-5 years? Specifics, even, yardage and TDs, wins and losses, offensive rankings, etc. This is not a thread with an agenda, I'm genuinely curious what people think, so let's try to keep this from turning into snipe thread #368.

jd1020 · 03-25-2013, 12:17 AM

I really dont understand why the draft lasts more than 1 round.

They should just change it to 1 round and then the rest of the bums that dont get drafted should become UFA's. No point in wasting everyone's time and dragging this shit out for 7 rounds.

splatbass · 03-25-2013, 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Pink

If I had the time/patience I would absolutely obliterate this person off the face of the earth with proven facts of draft picks.

There isn't enough time for you to obliterate anyone with facts, since you are basing your whole argument on supposition. You are a dumbass that couldn't debate if your life depended on it.

Sorter · 03-25-2013, 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by splatbass

My argument is truth. You can't say that the 34th pick this year is a first round talent - you don't even know who it will be or who the Chiefs would have taken with it. It is absurd.

Based on the short list I provided, there are certainly players with "first round talent" available.

HolyHat · 03-25-2013, 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by splatbass

There isn't enough time for you to obliterate anyone with facts, since you are basing your whole argument on supposition. You are a dumbass that couldn't debate if your life depended on it.

You have managed to derail several pages on this thread with your nonsense. I have no idea who you are, you're probably a good person. So I'm not going to continue with this argument.

Bottom line is, the trade for Alex Smith was horseshit. It's a proven ****ing fact that talented dudes come out of the second round. It also happens to be the round that Reid and Dorsey have had A TON of success with in their time w/ other teams.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 03-25-2013, 12:26 AM

splatbass should be sentenced to swim laps in an infinity pool filled with Alex Smith's scrotemeal.

splatbass · 03-25-2013, 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Ponderception

Based on the short list I provided, there are certainly players with "first round talent" available.

Certainly there are. There are also some that will be a bust. We don't know which would have been picked with 34 if we had kept the pick, so it is foolish to make claims about it.

jd1020 · 03-25-2013, 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by splatbass

Certainly there are. There are also some that will be a bust.

And that's exactly why they are 2nd round picks, right?

Only the 1st round is where you get players who are guaranteed to work out.

HolyHat · 03-25-2013, 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by jd1020

And that's exactly why they are 2nd round picks, right?

Only the 1st round is where you get players who are guaranteed to work out.

Ryan Sims thinks you're onto something here...

jd1020 · 03-25-2013, 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Pink

Ryan Sims thinks you're onto something here...

As well as...

HolyHat · 03-25-2013, 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by jd1020

As well as...

This could go on for a while if we wanted...

Sorter · 03-25-2013, 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by splatbass

Certainly there are. There are also some that will be a bust. We don't know which would have been picked with 34 if we had kept the pick, so it is foolish to make claims about it.

I think that since 2009, your chances of finding at the very least a productive player in the 2nd round are much greater than finding a complete bust.

OrtonsPiercedTaint · 03-25-2013, 03:22 AM

Koolaid is thicker than blood pudding.

patteeu · 03-25-2013, 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Pink

What do all these coaches have in common?
- Urban Meyer
- Norv Turner
- Mike Martz
- Jim Harbaugh

A) Alex Smith played well enough under Urban Meyer to get drafted 1.1.

B) Mike Martz doesn't coach to the player, he puts players into his system whether they fit or not.

Pasta Little Brioni · 03-25-2013, 07:42 AM

Wins, playoff wins that's all I care about.

Steron · 03-25-2013, 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun

I expect a Cassel-esque performance of garbage QB play that will occasionally spike upwards to "pretty good" once Smith ends up on the hotseat.

Those spikes will save his job for about three years.

Eventually, Andy Reid will be sacked, we will have this conversation in four years about how it was damn time given his unwavering support for Smith.

He will then be replaced by somebody like John Harbaugh, who will immediately trade for the best backup in the NFL and sign him to a four year extension. Season ticket sales will skyrocket in year 1 before hitting a new low by year 4.

Four years later, Harbaugh will be axed and we'll all wonder why he never gave the backup QB he traded for any competition.

At that point, Peyton Manning should be flaming out of his first head coaching job. We'll probably hire him up. Mannig will immediately trade for the NFL's best backup QB that year and sign him to a 4-year extension. Season ticket sales will skyrocket in year 1 before hitting a new low by year 4.

Four years later, Manning will be axed and we'll all wonder why he never gave the backup QB he traded for any competition.

He will then be replaced by Dda;lkfj;alkdfalkdjf Wjepofrajf2jojafl who will immediately will trade for the NFL's best backup QB. Season ticket sales will skyrocket in year 1 before hitting a new low in year 4.

Four years later, Dda;lkfj;alkdfalkdjf Wjepofrajf2jojafl will be axed and we'll all wonder why he never gave our QB any real competition.

This.

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