Health Nuts:cholesterol

[Sure-Oz]

I am 28 and just got back some blood test. Saying i have a 240 in cholesterol. This is pretty high for my age isn't it? I haven't been exercising the past several months and have eaten alot of bad food (moms foreign spicy cooking) and fast meals. My blood sugar is fine and my liver etc is great, just the cholesterol is high. What are some suggestions on diet? I know i need to start running like i used and exercise more. I don't want to be like my dad who had a 5 bypass surgery and has diabetes. I am 6'2 190lbs...(im not "fat") Thanks

I currently suffer from achalasia and gerd so i am not the healthiest, but i manage.

[BIG_DADDY]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Personally, I'd suggest seeing your doctor and taking the prescribed medication. You have a history of heart disease in your family and without proper medication, you may follow their path.

Cholesterol is created by the liver. While unhealthy eating habits can contribute to high cholesterol levels, more than 90% of those with high cholesterol have a genetic issue, not an dietary issue.

Cholesterol is created by the liver. If your body at age 28 is creating too much cholesterol (240 - danger zone), just imagine how much your liver will be creating as you age.

I had my cholesterol measured at age forty during a life insurance physical. It was 195 (on the high side). I had been eating hard-boiled eggs after each workout and attributed it to the egss (one egg has more cholesterol than is recommended each day). A year later, I had a full physical and my cholesterol measured over 300! The doctor and the nurses were astounded, saying that with my body type and body fat (very athletic), they thought it would be around 190. So I re-tested on week later and after eating only organic berry smoothies and low-sodium and low-cholesterol soup, my cholesterol was STILL 300. My doctor explained to me that he's had 350 pound people in with a cholesterol level of 160 and a 160 pound person in with a level of 300. It's genetics, though diet can help.

I went on Simvastatin (Zocor 20mg) and after 5 months, it's back down to 206. I'll be re-tested in June but I can happily say that I've felt no side effects, whatsoever.

IF you're planning to avoid medication and try to deal with your cholesterol through dieting, keep in mind that you're going to have to be extremely disciplined and even in doing so, your levels may not drop a point. Additionally, if you're going to avoid medication, my advice would be to get checked every year. You dont want it to sky-rocket and go unchecked, as with your family history, it may lead to serious implications.

Read this before you buy into any of this guys hysteria.

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/ar...part-four.aspx



Like I said, take your time, do your research and take responsibility for your own health. If you go with the meds you will fell good knowing you did your due diligence on the subject and made the best decision you could make. Do not just accept whatever horseshit the AMA is selling. JMO

[BIG_DADDY]

Originally Posted by Silock

Coconut isn't the only one. Peanut oil also has an extremely high smoke point, and it has a lot of unsaturated fat.

I was never talking about smoking points I was talking about molecular change. Did you read what I posted?

[Stinger]

Just coming into the thread and have not read the responses yet .... If you are looking to take something.... Fish Oil pills. It a natural and I don't believe any sided effects.

[Frosty]

Another chance to pimp this heart doctor's blog:

http://heartscanblog.blogspot.com/

Does a great job cutting through the bullshit.

[Sure-Oz]

im glad i have made this thread, all of your points are real helpful and i havent even seen the dr yet..

[BIG_DADDY]

Originally Posted by arc

Another chance to pimp this heart doctor's blog:

http://heartscanblog.blogspot.com/

Does a great job cutting through the bullshit.

Love the article on Cheerios. Just proves my point. If they are pimping health and it only costs pennies to produce more times than not it's total BS.

[BIG_DADDY]

Originally Posted by Sure-Oz

im glad i have made this thread, all of your points are real helpful and i havent even seen the dr yet..

Do all your due diligence on cholesterol and statins and either memorize it or bring it in and ask questions. Hit your doctor with it when you go in. You get some great responses. I find one of two things usually happens. The doctor either tries to come clean on some level and starts talking to you like a real doctor or they freak out and won't answer questions acting all indignant that you would ever question the advise they are giving you.

[Sure-Oz]

Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY

Do all your due diligence on cholesterol and statins and either memorize it or bring it in and ask questions. Hit your doctor with it when you go in. You get some great responses. I find one of two things usually happens. The doctor either tries to come clean on some level and starts talking to you like a real doctor or they freak out and won't answer questions acting all indignant that you would ever question the advise they are giving you.

Good advice, my family dr is a friend and has been for a long time so i think he'll give it to me straight on what i need to do...if not ive got some knowledge and actually copying and pasting some of this stuff on a word document for myself. I didn't even think the thread would get past a few responses. The planet is great!

[JohnnyV13]

There are a number of foods that do help you reduce cholesterol. Oatmeal, adding flax seed to your dishes, and drinking ONE alcoholic beverage on a daily basis are all things that help. (Things I do regularly). If you want to add flax seed to your diet, you need to remember that flax needs to be stored in a sealed container, otherwise exposure to oxygen will ruin its benefits.

I also eat a lot of japanese style stir fry rather than eating big slabs of meat. My cholesterol has gone from 227 to 151, with excellent ratios in all the tested categories.

[Silock]

Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY

I was never talking about smoking points I was talking about molecular change. Did you read what I posted?

Do you even know what a smoke point is? It's the point where heat causes the molecules to break down.

[Silock]

Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY

Do all your due diligence on cholesterol and statins and either memorize it or bring it in and ask questions. Hit your doctor with it when you go in. You get some great responses. I find one of two things usually happens. The doctor either tries to come clean on some level and starts talking to you like a real doctor or they freak out and won't answer questions acting all indignant that you would ever question the advise they are giving you.

No wonder you're so anti-doctor. You've apparently never had one treat you like a human being. Sad for you

[BIG_DADDY]

Originally Posted by Silock

Do you even know what a smoke point is? It's the point where heat causes the molecules to break down.

Smoking point isn't the only measurement of an oil breaking down. Iw ould get into this more but obviously you are more concerned about being a dick than coming up with answers.

[Silock]

Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY

Smoking point isn't the only measurement of an oil breaking down. Iw ould get into this more but obviously you are more concerned about being a dick than coming up with answers.

Of course it's not, but you were specifically talking about oils that withstand high frying heat before breaking down and said coconut oil is the only one. That's just not true. That's all I'm saying. I'm not even arguing with you about the benefits coconut oil, because that stuff is all true.

"Actually you would fry with coconut oil whenever possible as it doesn't it doesn' break down on a molecular level when exposed to heat. This is something I saved from awhile back.

"It is the only oil that is stable enough to resist heat-induced damage, while it also helps you promote heart health, maintain normal cholesterol levels and even supports weight loss — coconut oil.""

If you were referring to something in addition to heat, perhaps you should have said so, because everything in there is talking specifically about heat.

[BIG_DADDY]

Originally Posted by Silock

No wonder you're so anti-doctor. You've apparently never had one treat you like a human being. Sad for you

Out of all the people that post here I find the relationship I have with you to be the least rewarding considering the potential. You obviously not only have a true concern for your health, you actually take some responsibility for your own and are not too lazy to do some of your own research. This is really rare I gotta tell ya. The sad part is it is obviously much more important for you to try and be a dick than it is to network with some really good people. Truth is I know a lot of doctors and network with some awesome guys. I am truly blessed in having access to some great medical minds when I am not satisfied with some of the answers I am getting. Along with these doctors there are several other people I am close to who have similar interests that network with others I do not have access to. This makes my life much easier.

Obviously you know it all at 27 though and don't need anyone but yourself and some disinformation that you have read already Dr. Soy so I'll just leave it at that. It's a shame though. If you ever make it through the smoke that being sold sold to you as healthy in this country you might actually find something that will allow you to help yourself and somebody else one day.

[Silock]

Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY

Out of all the people that post here I find the relationship I have with you to be the least rewarding considering the potential. You obviously not only have a true concern for your health, you actually take some responsibility for your own and are not too lazy to do some of your own research. This is really rare I gotta tell ya. The sad part is it is obviously much more important for you to try and be a dick than it is to network with some really good people. Truth is I know a lot of doctors and network with some awesome guys. I am truly blessed in having access to some great medical minds when I am not satisfied with some of the answers I am getting. Along with these doctors there are several other people I am close to who have similar interests that network with others I do not have access to. This makes my life much easier.

Obviously you know it all at 27 though and don't need anyone but yourself and some disinformation that you have read already Dr. Soy so I'll just leave it at that. It's a shame though. If you ever make it through the smoke that being sold sold to you as healthy in this country you might actually find something that will allow you to help yourself and somebody else one day.

I just don't understand your semi-snide comments about doctors "coming clean" or ridiculing you for questioning their decisions. Some doctors may do that, but I feel that's a totally unfair way to categorize doctors. They're not out to get one over on you. They're just trying to do their best, and like all humans, they sometimes get it wrong.

I never said I know it all, and I apologize if I come off that way. However, I don't see any difference between your attitude and mine, so if you're calling me out on that, perhaps you should take a good, long look in the mirror as well.