Chiefs Geno Smith is not worth the 1st overall pick - Page 8

DomerNKC · 01-02-2013, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

And how long have they been in that conference?

Dumbass.

that would be a WHOLE season. Not enough games to judge his greatness? Or not enough wins for ya?

CanadaKC · 01-01-2013, 02:59 PM

My thought not to draft Geno Smith at number one isn't about Geno, but more about the player that we will bypass to draft him...and I don't want us to let him go. Star Lotulelei is above Geno Smith at his position. He's more of a game changer. I can handle rolling the dice with our high 2nd round pick on a QB, because I, like many, think that's the place in this particular draft to draft a QB. Maybe we can even move up and pick in the middle of the first round and pick Geno there. Can you imagine Star AND Geno? I can.

Saccopoo · 01-01-2013, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by CanadaKC

My thought not to draft Geno Smith at number one isn't about Geno, but more about the player that we will bypass to draft him...and I don't want us to let him go. Star Lotulelei is above Geno Smith at his position. He's more of a game changer. I can handle rolling the dice with our high 2nd round pick on a QB, because I, like many, think that's the place in this particular draft to draft a QB. Maybe we can even move up and pick in the middle of the first round and pick Geno there. Can you imagine Star AND Geno? I can.

Star is not better than Geno at his position.

You could even make a legitimate arguement that Ohio State's John Hankins is a better prospect at the same position as Starlite.

Star is dominant in one on one situations, but he's not an upfield penetrating type of defensive tackle in the mold of Glenn Dorsey or Ndamukong Suh. He'll hold a gap like a mofo though as he absolutely demands a double team. He will get frustrated and nullified by doubles though if there is a talented guard/center opposite him - something that he'll see every single game in the NFL. He's a very solid prospect and will end up being a very good NT in either a 34 or 43, but he's not an end (John Hankins is a bit more explosive than Lotulelei and fits that better though neither one is ideal in length for a five tech).

And, for the record, I've watched nearly every single game Star has played in in his career.

Crush · 01-01-2013, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by CanadaKC

My thought not to draft Geno Smith at number one isn't about Geno, but more about the player that we will bypass to draft him...and I don't want us to let him go. Star Lotulelei is above Geno Smith at his position. He's more of a game changer. I can handle rolling the dice with our high 2nd round pick on a QB, because I, like many, think that's the place in this particular draft to draft a QB. Maybe we can even move up and pick in the middle of the first round and pick Geno there. Can you imagine Star AND Geno? I can.

Another D-Lineman? Geno, Wilson, Bray, and Barkley will be gone by no. 10. You have to pick QB.

**Baby Lee** · 01-01-2013, 02:59 PM

WTF, we're paying attention to what the hairdo says all of the sudden?

Kiper's never right about anything.

Crush · 01-01-2013, 03:03 PM

Geno, Barkley, Wilson, and Bray will be gone by no. 10. You have to take a QB at no. 1.

Pin Head · 01-02-2013, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Crush

Geno, Barkley, Wilson, and Bray will be gone by no. 10. You have to take a QB at no. 1.

I wouldn't kid mysef into anyother QB by Geno Smith #1 overall. NO amount of desperation would push Glennon that high. Or anyother QB in this draft. I'd strongly consider Barkley (or whomever left) in round 2 and BPA #1.

htismaqe · 01-02-2013, 11:56 AM

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I wouldn't kid mysef into anyother QB by Geno Smith #1 overall. NO amount of desperation would push Glennon that high. Or anyother QB in this draft. I'd strongly consider Barkley (or whomever left) in round 2 and BPA #1.

So who is BPA at #1?

Molitoth · 01-02-2013, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Narrow Head

I wouldn't kid mysef into anyother QB by Geno Smith #1 overall. NO amount of desperation would push Glennon that high. Or anyother QB in this draft. I'd strongly consider Barkley (or whomever left) in round 2 and BPA #1.

So basically you want to go with the BEST non-impact position player with your #1, and take the leftovers on the most important position in sports?

HolyHat · 01-02-2013, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Molitoth

So basically you want to go with the BEST non-impact position player with your #1, and take the leftovers on the most important position in sports?

Well said

Pin Head · 01-02-2013, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Molitoth

So basically you want to go with the BEST non-impact position player with your #1, and take the leftovers on the most important position in sports?

As an alternative I'd be willing to consider trading away the 2013 2nd, 3rd and 5th round picks to Washington for Cousins OR just our 2014 1st rounder (which should be a top 10 pick) and #3 in 2014 as well.

ChiefRocka · 01-02-2013, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Narrow Head

As an alternative I'd be willing to consider trading away the 2013 2nd, 3rd and 5th round picks to Washington for Cousins OR just our 2014 1st rounder (which should be a top 10 pick) and #3 in 2014 as well.

If you and Scott Pioli had a child...

duncan_idaho · 01-02-2013, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Narrow Head

As an alternative I'd be willing to consider trading away the 2013 2nd, 3rd and 5th round picks to Washington for Cousins OR just our 2014 1st rounder (which should be a top 10 pick) and #3 in 2014 as well.

"Ah, yes, the old 'Acquire other team's backup based on extremely small sample size' plan.

THAT has worked out brilliantly over the years."

-- Says Steve Bono, Elvis Grbac, Matt Cassel and too many others.

Molitoth · 01-02-2013, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Narrow Head

As an alternative I'd be willing to consider trading away the 2013 2nd, 3rd and 5th round picks to Washington for Cousins OR just our 2014 1st rounder (which should be a top 10 pick) and #3 in 2014 as well.

Wow, Cousins comes out and plays a few decent snaps and he's worth THAT now??? You are crazy man, just crazy.

I bet last year you would've had a meltdown if the chiefs picked cousins.

htismaqe · 01-02-2013, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Narrow Head

As an alternative I'd be willing to consider trading away the 2013 2nd, 3rd and 5th round picks to Washington for Cousins OR just our 2014 1st rounder (which should be a top 10 pick) and #3 in 2014 as well.

This just can't be serious.

01-01-2013, 02:59 PM	#2
CanadaKC Lord of the SB Rings Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Vancouver, B.C. Canada Casino cash: $6528668	My thought not to draft Geno Smith at number one isn't about Geno, but more about the player that we will bypass to draft him...and I don't want us to let him go. Star Lotulelei is above Geno Smith at his position. He's more of a game changer. I can handle rolling the dice with our high 2nd round pick on a QB, because I, like many, think that's the place in this particular draft to draft a QB. Maybe we can even move up and pick in the middle of the first round and pick Geno there. Can you imagine Star AND Geno? I can.
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