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**BigMeatballDave** · 01-11-2013, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by memyselfI

Agreed. Especially when his new head coach is saying the current talent at QB needs to be evaluated and may not have received a fair shake before because of the changing offenses. He described them as 'young' and 'fragile' guys.

To me, that means Cassel and/or Quinn will be here next year along with a new guy to be named later.

Go away.

FringeNC · 01-11-2013, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by memyselfI

Agreed. Especially when his new head coach is saying the current talent at QB needs to be evaluated and may not have received a fair shake before because of the changing offenses. He described them as 'young' and 'fragile' guys.

To me, that means Cassel and/or Quinn will be here next year along with a new guy to be named later.

Cassel and his $7.5 million contract?

htismaqe · 01-11-2013, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by FringeNC

Cassel and his $7.5 million contract?

It's actually more like $16.5M over the next two years.

We save over $5M against the cap by letting him go.

FringeNC · 01-11-2013, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

It's actually more like $16.5M over the next two years.

We save over $5M against the cap by letting him go.

Right, if you include 2014. If for some reason Reid goes with a journeyman scrub his first year, it's going to be a guy that the QBOTF and the rest of the offense can learn the WCO from.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 01-11-2013, 01:10 PM

They'll take Geno. Reid's offense uses the deep ball a lot more than other WCO's, which makes Smith a tailor-made fit. If Jon Gruden were our coach I could see Barkley.

**dirk digler** · 01-11-2013, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

They'll take Geno. Reid's offense uses the deep ball a lot more than other WCO's, which makes Smith a tailor-made fit. If Jon Gruden were our coach I could see Barkley.

We will just need to find ourselves a DeSean Jackson\Maclin burner at WR

Hammock Parties · 01-11-2013, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

They'll take Geno. Reid's offense uses the deep ball a lot more than other WCO's, which makes Smith a tailor-made fit. If Jon Gruden were our coach I could see Barkley.

okcchief · 01-11-2013, 01:11 PM

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To me with Andy Reid right now, I think Barkley is going to be the target.

To me Barkley is my least favorite of the 3. However, if Reid likes him I'll trust his judgement.

You have to give this regime a few years and see how it plays out. We will have people in charge that know better than us.

Using the OKC Thunder as an example people shit all over Westbrook, Ibaka and Harden when they were selected. Many had the opinion you should trade Westbrook and draft Rubio the year Harden was picked. If they went by what the fans and media wanted we would be complete shit right now.

You hire the best football people you can and let them make the decisions. If you trade down or get a 2nd round QB thats ok in my book. Give them a chance to build the team, and if they don't succeed in a few years then flame away.

ILChief · 01-11-2013, 01:12 PM

Well our last banner asked for a "new" QB and not the "#1 QB in the draft" so we are all good

okcchief · 01-11-2013, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by memyselfI

I don't know why either party would want to. I just don't think Cassel is as gone as I thought he was before Reid was hired. His responses on that call indicated to me that he thinks the coaching was the problem moreso than the QBs themselves.

Bottom line, if Cassel stays I won't be shocked.

Now this is the one thing I would freak about lol

**BigMeatballDave** · 01-11-2013, 01:16 PM

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Now this is the one thing I would freak about lol

Reid is not stupid

'Hamas' Jenkins · 01-11-2013, 01:27 PM

A mentality wouldn't contribute to poor accuracy, a lack of ability or poor technique would. A gunslinger mentality could contribute to poor decisions. That said, I'm not previously aware of anyone questioning Smith's downfield accuracy. In fact, I think it's the trait where he stands out most.

**Mr. Kotter** · 01-11-2013, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

A mentality wouldn't contribute to poor accuracy, a lack of ability or poor technique would. A gunslinger mentality could contribute to poor decisions. That said, I'm not previously aware of anyone questioning Smith's downfield accuracy. In fact, I think it's the trait where he stands out most.

Maybe he forces throws? I hope you are right, and we pick him then. One example of what I've read....

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Displays adequate overall accuracy but can continue to improve as a senior. Mechanics and footwork are solid. Usually throws with good balance. Very accurate in the short-to-intermediate range. Shows good placement and provides his receivers with the ability to create after the catch. Can make an accurate throw off balance and/or on the run to both sides. Also can thread the needle into tight downfield windows. A bit of fast ball thrower right now and can continue to develop touch, particularly with longer intermediate and deeps throws. Needs to learn to put more air under his deep ball and drop it down the chute to provide more room for error with receivers.

From ESPN Insider....

O.city · 01-11-2013, 01:29 PM

Geno is an extremely accurate QB, who is said to lack in reading defenses. I'm a fan of Geno, like Wilson too. But, give me a guy who's extremely accurate and I'll try and teach him to read defenses.

**Rausch** · 01-11-2013, 01:32 PM

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Geno is an extremely accurate QB, who is said to lack in reading defenses. I'm a fan of Geno, like Wilson too. But, give me a guy who's extremely accurate and I'll try and teach him to read defenses.

Trent Green was the exact opposite.

He knew how to read a defense and where his guy would be and THAT made him accurate...

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'Hamas' Jenkins Now you've pissed me off! Join Date: Jan 2006 Casino cash: $7989572	A mentality wouldn't contribute to poor accuracy, a lack of ability or poor technique would. A gunslinger mentality could contribute to poor decisions. That said, I'm not previously aware of anyone questioning Smith's downfield accuracy. In fact, I think it's the trait where he stands out most. __________________ "When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read 'all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and Catholics.' When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty – to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocrisy.”--Abraham Lincoln
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