If the Chiefs go 8-8 or better 49ers get a 2nd round pick.

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

A third- or second-rounder from Kansas City, the remnant of the Alex Smith deal. Now it can be told: The second draft choice San Francisco will receive from the Smith deal will be K.C.'s second-rounder in 2014 if the Chiefs go 8-8 or better this season. It will be a third-rounder in 2014 if Kansas City is under .500 this season.

So: San Francisco will probably have first-, second- and four third-rounders next year. But if the Chiefs surprise, it'll more likely be a one, two twos and three threes. As we've seen, GM Trent Baalke is dangerous with extra picks in his hands. If Colin Kaepernick is very good, the Niners should be annual contenders for years with the picks laid out that way.

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[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by KC Tattoo

We could have cut to the chase and drafted our guy 1.1 and not waist 2-3 years on a stop gap quarterback. We would have a guy (hopefully) developed in that 2-3 year span and be on our way building a championship team.

But Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooo why take a chance on a young quarterback when you can throw away draft picks on an Alex Smith who won't even last 3 years from being injured?

I want a young QB as much as anybody. I wanted Geno Smith. I'm not a big fan of the Alex Smith trade.

But I can see how Alex Smith fits exactly the kind of offense Reid wants to try out (that's evidenced by also adding Daniel and adding two spread consultants). I can understand if they think Geno had too many red flags, as many QB-happy coaches saw flags too. I can understand if maybe they don't think any QBs they were looking into were ideal for the type of offense he wants to run.

If Alex Smith fits exactly what Reid wants to run, then I really don't care if he's a stopgap, especially if the other QBs available don't fit that. I don't get the idea of forcing a team to draft a QB they don't want just for the sake of drafting a QB. I don't think Smith is the answer. But I'm not ruling out that they'll find an answer, maybe surprisingly with Daniel or in future drafts. I'm not going to get upset if a team felt like they just didn't have any options in what is widely acknowledged as a poor QB class.

[Coogs]

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

I just think we gave up too much. Period
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If he has us a 8-8 or better, it is a mid to late 2nd round pick, and he was probably worth getting this team in the playoff hunt. If he has us less than 8-8 we will still have our top fifteen 2nd round pick to work with, and would be out an early 3rd.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

And flacco almost got them there and came back the next year and won the mother****er.

Who else you guys are using as examples has?

Flacco, Sanchez, Smith.


Who doesn't fit?
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Eli Manning. Lost his first 2 playoff games and has looked like a bottom 5 QB some games just like Flacco.

I think confidence, coaching and luck is what makes these QB's have nice playoff runs.

[splatbass]

Originally Posted by Bowser

You shut your whore mouth. San Fransisco quarterbacks always bring success here in KC. ALWAYS

What happened on the past with different QBs, different coaches and different players has absolutely NO BEARING on what will happen this year with Alex Smith. It is a ridiculous and illogical argument.

[splatbass]

Originally Posted by SNR

Oh man if Geno Smith perseveres through all this bad shit in New York and winds up being a great QB...

Let's just say I'm going to be swinging my dick around this place even harder than I was during last season

And what will you do if he turns out to be a bust? Admit you were wrong? Somehow I doubt it.

[splatbass]

Originally Posted by KC Tattoo

We could have cut to the chase and drafted our guy 1.1 and not waist 2-3 years on a stop gap quarterback.

Really? You STILL think we should have used 1.1 on a second round QB? WTF are you smoking?

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Eli Manning. Lost his first 2 playoff games and has looked like a bottom 5 QB some games just like Flacco.

I think confidence, coaching and luck is what makes these QB's have nice playoff runs.

Alex Smith had top-notch coaching the last 2 years, a phenomenal supporting cast, and it was a hell of a lot easier for him to adjust to Harbaugh than Kaepernick (a guy with no NFL experience).

Please, just stop. I get that Alex Smith gets too much criticism around these parts. But please stop making yourself silly by even putting guys like Flacco and Eli in the conversation.

[Sorter]

Originally Posted by splatbass

Really? You STILL think we should have used 1.1 on a second round QB? WTF are you smoking?

That's a silly argument.

Would you have used 1.1 on a second round QB in Kaepernick with the benefit of hindsight?

[Bowser]

Originally Posted by Sorter

That's a silly argument.

Would you have used 1.1 on a second round QB in Kaepernick with the benefit of hindsight?

WELL **** YEAH BECAUSE OFFENSIVE LINE AND SHIT

[splatbass]

Originally Posted by Sorter

That's a silly argument.

Would you have used 1.1 on a second round QB in Kaepernick with the benefit of hindsight?

There is no hindsight at this point, except that no team except the Bills thought there was a QB worth a first round pick. We have no idea if any of this class are going to succeed or bust.

Your argument is silly. Mine is logical.

There isn't a coach in the NFL that thought any of the QBs in this draft were worth anything close to 1.1.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by Sorter

That's a silly argument.

Would you have used 1.1 on a second round QB in Kaepernick with the benefit of hindsight?

It's not a silly argument, only because you can only rely on foresight. We have clear evidence that if the Chiefs picked Geno, it would have been a reach of more than one round.

Your point would be fine, except that people are bitching about a no-brainer pick for Geno Smith when it clearly wasn't that at all.

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by SNR

Oh man if Geno Smith perseveres through all this bad shit in New York and winds up being a great QB...

Let's just say I'm going to be swinging my dick around this place even harder than I was during last season

what if he starts three games, gets benched, and is out of the league in 3 years

will you even have a dick then?

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by Sorter

That's a silly argument.

Would you have used 1.1 on a second round QB in Kaepernick with the benefit of hindsight?

I'll let you know in January after I see him play a full season and teams have his tape.

[Sorter]

Originally Posted by RunKC

I'll let you know in January after I see him play a full season and teams have his tape.

Fair enough.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by SNR

Oh man if Geno Smith perseveres through all this bad shit in New York and winds up being a great QB...

Let's just say I'm going to be swinging my dick around this place even harder than I was during last season

If this happens, I'll give you 50 days of rep. Every. Single. Day.