Chiefs A Levelheaded Review Wk17

DenverChief · 01-01-2023, 03:08 PM

1. The missed XP & FG - didn't get to see another view of the XP snap - looks like Tommy just flat out dropped the ball. Love the initial effort to just take it in for 2 but when he realized he wasn't gonna get there it got ugly. Maybe Tommy is the problem. Need to figure out the XP/FG thing real quick. That will kill us in the playoffs. The missed FG at half, dunno what to say other that Butker flat out shanked that kick. I watched closely as the ball was snapped. It was a clean catch and perfect placement (laces out) Butker for whatever reason hit it like a parent chasing a child around the house.

2. EZ Interception. The Broncos seem to have figured out how to get Pat to throw picks. 4 total in the last two meetings combined. Disappointed in this one but Pat takes risks and sometimes they don't work out. I did think it was interesting that Pat didn't throw to Pat's side all game. Much respect for the Surtain.

3. Toney PR fumble was just good special teams work. Can't really fault Toney for fumbling - it was a good strip. Chiefs have to know other teams are looking to strip the ball now. Knowing that our guys aren't holding the ball with two hands in traffic.

4. Defense played really well multiple batted balls, couple of Wilson sacks and bottled their O pretty effectively. 2nd Q big 3rd down play with about a minute left. They just found the soft spot in the D, this is a direct result of LB's in coverage. Need to find that Sorenson hybrid LB/DB. Someone with size to play the run and speed to play the pass. Defense really came up big today when it counted and they have improved dramatically over the last couple of games. The addition of Brandon Williams seems to correlate with the improved pass rush and run D.

5. Watson, just when you thought he was done for he comes up with a huge play in the final seconds of the first half. Great catch - absolutely amazed at what Mahomes can make happen with very little time on the clock.

6. The Broncos are a proud organization they know the score and they are going to give us 110% every game year after year. We have to be prepared for that. Especially with the dismissal of their HC. Denver last swept us multiple years in the division from 2012 thru 2014. We have been sweeping them every year since 2016, 14 games in a row, quite the feat. Especially considering a lot our rivalry has been to split the series. They are no slouches and were projected to give the Chiefs a run for their money this year. Their Defense is really good - their offense is okay.

7. Patrick is back to playing the long ball game when it's not there. Gotta take the open stuff underneath. He missed Pacheco wide open in the flat a couple of times. Need to see the all 22 but Juju and Kelce both disappeared through the 1st three quarters. Need to game plan to get them in the game earlier.

8. Sneed wanted that pick 6 pretty bad and got absolutely leveled by Jerry Jeudy. Gotta have your head on a swivel if you are gonna dance around after an interception. Glad to see he is okay after taking that hit.

9. Referees - Pass interference the PI on Sutton was super ticky tacky as was the Williams PI. The 4th and 7th play was incredibly confusing. Illegal hands to the face (which no replay - show me the penalty - I hate them ignoring that) before the interception - 5 yard penalty makes it 4th & 2. The sticks were set up for 1st and 10 but the down marker was 4th down. Didn't matter as Jeudy got a 9 yard pass but talk about discombobulated. WTF was going on with the zebras today.

10. Injuries Thuney and Skyy. Obviously the Thuney injury hurts, hopefully it is just minor and can make a complete recovery before the playoffs.

TLO · 01-01-2023, 03:10 PM

15 straight. That's mind boggling.

Time to cheer for the BENGALS!!!

WilliamTheIrish · 01-01-2023, 03:10 PM

3) Toney failed to change hands and the ball was easily stripped. That's on Toney and the staff.

ShowtimeSBMVP · 01-01-2023, 03:11 PM

Just hope Sky and Joe are fine

FloridaMan88 · 01-01-2023, 03:11 PM

My levelheaded view is the Chiefs need to stop making the simple complicated.

Extra points.

Converting 3rd and 1’s.

Stopping 3rd and long on defense.

Shag · 01-01-2023, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by DenverChief

3. Toney PR fumble was just good special teams work. Can't really fault Toney for fumbling - it was a good strip. Chiefs have to know other teams are looking to strip the ball now. Knowing that our guys aren't holding the ball with two hands in traffic.

I don't get this mentality at all, that's 100% Toney's fault. Everybody tries to strip the ball, his #1 job is to hold onto it.

WilliamTheIrish · 01-01-2023, 03:12 PM

Turnovers are the great equalizer. I don't care how shitty a team's record is to date.

If we score (even a FG) instead of the INT, hold on to the ball on the punt return, this game is a 34-17 laugher.

DenverChief · 01-01-2023, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish

3) Toney failed to change hands and the ball was easily stripped. That's on Toney and the staff.

Fair enough or he could have gone down with the ball instead of trying to hang on and keep moving forward.

DrunkBassGuitar · 01-01-2023, 03:16 PM

that hands to face was super ticky tack. they showed it for a second and it looked like incidental contact but maybe I missed something there

Gary Cooper · 01-01-2023, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ShowtimeSBMVP

Just hope Sky and Joe are fine

Thuney for sure.

Skyy Moore is easily replaceable, especially if Hardman returns.

DrunkBassGuitar · 01-01-2023, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Hank Hill

15 straight. That's mind boggling.

Time to cheer for the BENGALS!!!

lol Obama was still president the last time the broncos won

DenverChief · 01-01-2023, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Shag

I don't get this mentality at all, that's 100% Toney's fault. Everybody tries to strip the ball, his #1 job is to hold onto it.

Meaning it wasn't easy like a few of Pachecos fumbles have been absolute drops. I compare this fumble to the Kelce fumble from a few weeks back. It happens the other team will make plays we can't just make it "easy" for them.

DenverChief · 01-01-2023, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by DrunkBassGuitar

lol Obama was still president the last time the broncos won

that's crazy

TLO · 01-01-2023, 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrunkBassGuitar

lol Obama was still president the last time the broncos won

That's actually insane

DenverChief · 01-01-2023, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish

Turnovers are the great equalizer. I don't care how shitty a team's record is to date.

If we score (even a FG) instead of the INT, hold on to the ball on the punt return, this game is a 34-17 laugher.

or 31-24 with a XP & FG tacked on

01-01-2023, 03:08 PM
DenverChief MVP Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Rocky Ford Casino cash: $5949867	A Levelheaded Review Wk17 1. The missed XP & FG - didn't get to see another view of the XP snap - looks like Tommy just flat out dropped the ball. Love the initial effort to just take it in for 2 but when he realized he wasn't gonna get there it got ugly. Maybe Tommy is the problem. Need to figure out the XP/FG thing real quick. That will kill us in the playoffs. The missed FG at half, dunno what to say other that Butker flat out shanked that kick. I watched closely as the ball was snapped. It was a clean catch and perfect placement (laces out) Butker for whatever reason hit it like a parent chasing a child around the house. 2. EZ Interception. The Broncos seem to have figured out how to get Pat to throw picks. 4 total in the last two meetings combined. Disappointed in this one but Pat takes risks and sometimes they don't work out. I did think it was interesting that Pat didn't throw to Pat's side all game. Much respect for the Surtain. 3. Toney PR fumble was just good special teams work. Can't really fault Toney for fumbling - it was a good strip. Chiefs have to know other teams are looking to strip the ball now. Knowing that our guys aren't holding the ball with two hands in traffic. 4. Defense played really well multiple batted balls, couple of Wilson sacks and bottled their O pretty effectively. 2nd Q big 3rd down play with about a minute left. They just found the soft spot in the D, this is a direct result of LB's in coverage. Need to find that Sorenson hybrid LB/DB. Someone with size to play the run and speed to play the pass. Defense really came up big today when it counted and they have improved dramatically over the last couple of games. The addition of Brandon Williams seems to correlate with the improved pass rush and run D. 5. Watson, just when you thought he was done for he comes up with a huge play in the final seconds of the first half. Great catch - absolutely amazed at what Mahomes can make happen with very little time on the clock. 6. The Broncos are a proud organization they know the score and they are going to give us 110% every game year after year. We have to be prepared for that. Especially with the dismissal of their HC. Denver last swept us multiple years in the division from 2012 thru 2014. We have been sweeping them every year since 2016, 14 games in a row, quite the feat. Especially considering a lot our rivalry has been to split the series. They are no slouches and were projected to give the Chiefs a run for their money this year. Their Defense is really good - their offense is okay. 7. Patrick is back to playing the long ball game when it's not there. Gotta take the open stuff underneath. He missed Pacheco wide open in the flat a couple of times. Need to see the all 22 but Juju and Kelce both disappeared through the 1st three quarters. Need to game plan to get them in the game earlier. 8. Sneed wanted that pick 6 pretty bad and got absolutely leveled by Jerry Jeudy. Gotta have your head on a swivel if you are gonna dance around after an interception. Glad to see he is okay after taking that hit. 9. Referees - Pass interference the PI on Sutton was super ticky tacky as was the Williams PI. The 4th and 7th play was incredibly confusing. Illegal hands to the face (which no replay - show me the penalty - I hate them ignoring that) before the interception - 5 yard penalty makes it 4th & 2. The sticks were set up for 1st and 10 but the down marker was 4th down. Didn't matter as Jeudy got a 9 yard pass but talk about discombobulated. WTF was going on with the zebras today. 10. Injuries Thuney and Skyy. Obviously the Thuney injury hurts, hopefully it is just minor and can make a complete recovery before the playoffs.
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