Chiefs How long will it take Andy Reid to beat a team that scores more than 24 points? - Page 2

Hammock Parties · 01-04-2013, 05:31 PM

In 4 years with Fat Scott as our GM, the Chiefs did not win ONE SINGLE GAME against an opponent that scored more than 24 points.

How long will it take Andrew Walter Reid?

Hammock Parties · 08-13-2015, 04:11 PM

In two years against teams that have scored 24+ points:

1-9

MagicHef · 08-13-2015, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Stop, Chiefs

In two years against teams that have scored 24+ points:

1-9

You should definitely mention which team it was that they beat.

Hammock Parties · 08-13-2015, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by MagicHef

You should definitely mention which team it was that they beat.

The Raiders.

Eleazar · 08-13-2015, 04:35 PM

We should definitely let the other team score more points, so we could beat teams scoring a lot of points, to make people happy.

Hammock Parties · 08-13-2015, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Cochise

We should definitely let the other team score more points, so we could beat teams scoring a lot of points, to make people happy.

I'm not sure it would work that way.

ILChief · 08-13-2015, 04:38 PM

How many times did we allow 24 points?

Hammock Parties · 08-13-2015, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ILChief

How many times did we allow 24 points?

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Originally Posted by Stop, Chiefs

In two years against teams that have scored 24+ points:

1-9

chiefzilla1501 · 08-13-2015, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Stop, Chiefs

In two years against teams that have scored 24+ points:

1-9

Context matters:
First, It looks like we're talking about 24 or more (not 24+). If that's the case:
-4 losses vs. the Broncos who we knew outmatched us
-Loss vs. SD behind Chase in a game we probably should have won
-Loss vs. Indy where they scored 40+ (playoffs)
-Loss vs. SD in games where the offense scored 38 or more
-Loss vs. Tennessee where we were blown out from the start

So we've proven we can't beat Peyton. We lost 2 games where the defense had an atrocious performance. And 1 of those games was with a backup QB. That leaves 3 winnable games where we went 1-2. It's not good but not nearly as bad as the #'s lead you to believe

Hammock Parties · 08-13-2015, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Context matters:
First, It looks like we're talking about 24 or more (not 24+). If that's the case:

1-9 is 1-9.

Also if it makes you feel better we also dropped a game to a team that scored 23 points and one to a team that scored 22.

**LoneWolf** · 08-13-2015, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Stop, Chiefs

1-9 is 1-9.

Also if it makes you feel better we also dropped a game to a team that scored 23 points and one to a team that scored 22.

Tom Brady and the Patriots record last season when the opposing team scored 24+....1-3.

You're a ****ing tool bag.

Hammock Parties · 08-13-2015, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by LoneWolf

Tom Brady and the Patriots record last season when the opposing team scored 24+....1-3.

You're a ****ing tool bag.

You liar. You conveniently left out playoff games, as if they don't count.

They were 3-3.

And the year before that, they were 5-4.

LIAR LIAR YOUR PANTS ON FIRE

Discuss Thrower · 08-13-2015, 06:08 PM

To counter GifHorse's guideline of record 24+ points allowed by a defense, it's only fair to point out that this a point total that you'd expect a below average defense to give up with some regularity. The league average for points scored over the last ten seasons has been somewhere in the ballpark of 22 with only one season higher than that and a handful of seasons at 20.

If you roll with 22 being the amount of points the bottom half of the league to allow per game, assume the points allowed by a teams which are just above and below this margin to be fewer than 22 ---20 seems like a fairer margin to judge a team by seeing as that could account for a fumble / interception return or a special teams TD by the opposition with the defense allowing 14~ points or fewer which would normally be an average to good performance by a defense.

Considering who bumped this thread, there's no sense ignoring it's a Smith criticism thread. With this in mind, I'll take the bait. Consider the records of QBs who are in a tier similar to Smith when the team allows 20 points or more in a game in both the regular and postseason:

Cutler: 31-51 (.378%; 1-1 in the playoffs)
Dalton: 13-23-1 (.351%; 0-3 in the playoffs)
Flacco: 21-35 (.375%; 2-5 in the playoffs)

Smith comes in at 12-47-1 and an even .200% thanks largely to the 49ers being ass from 2005-2010. Harbaugh era onward, he's 8-16-1 .320% with a 1-2 record in the playoffs.

So it's really a question of whether not Smith's career is more indicative of influencing wins and losses or if it's the last three and a half seasons.

Also, I think a more telling stat for all of these QBs would be record in games where their team allows 18+ points. But I'm tired of going through PFR data.

19now11 · 08-13-2015, 11:39 PM

waited 2 years to say this. clay your an idiot and i hope you get hit by a short bus. this time next year you'll be licking the sweat off of your qbs sack. hello every one else. nice to meet you all finally. alex is starting the probowl this year. mark it down.

**007** · 08-13-2015, 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by 19now11

waited 2 years to say this. clay your an idiot and i hope you get hit by a short bus. this time next year you'll be licking the sweat off of your qbs sack. hello every one else. nice to meet you all finally. alex is starting the probowl this year. mark it down.

So, I take it the other three QBs will elect to not attend the probowl or will have a fantasy injury.,

**DaneMcCloud** · 08-13-2015, 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by 19now11

waited 2 years to say this. clay your an idiot and i hope you get hit by a short bus.

It's hard to get hit by a short bus when you're driving it

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Discuss Thrower "You like to drink?" Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: "I like to drink." Casino cash: $3166869	To counter GifHorse's guideline of record 24+ points allowed by a defense, it's only fair to point out that this a point total that you'd expect a below average defense to give up with some regularity. The league average for points scored over the last ten seasons has been somewhere in the ballpark of 22 with only one season higher than that and a handful of seasons at 20. If you roll with 22 being the amount of points the bottom half of the league to allow per game, assume the points allowed by a teams which are just above and below this margin to be fewer than 22 ---20 seems like a fairer margin to judge a team by seeing as that could account for a fumble / interception return or a special teams TD by the opposition with the defense allowing 14~ points or fewer which would normally be an average to good performance by a defense. Considering who bumped this thread, there's no sense ignoring it's a Smith criticism thread. With this in mind, I'll take the bait. Consider the records of QBs who are in a tier similar to Smith when the team allows 20 points or more in a game in both the regular and postseason: Cutler: 31-51 (.378%; 1-1 in the playoffs) Dalton: 13-23-1 (.351%; 0-3 in the playoffs) Flacco: 21-35 (.375%; 2-5 in the playoffs) Smith comes in at 12-47-1 and an even .200% thanks largely to the 49ers being ass from 2005-2010. Harbaugh era onward, he's 8-16-1 .320% with a 1-2 record in the playoffs. So it's really a question of whether not Smith's career is more indicative of influencing wins and losses or if it's the last three and a half seasons. Also, I think a more telling stat for all of these QBs would be record in games where their team allows 18+ points. But I'm tired of going through PFR data. __________________ Chiefs 2016 Opponents: Home: JAX, TEN, NO, TB, NYJ. Away: HOU, IND, ATL, CAR, PIT Chiefs 2017 Opponents: Home: BUF, MIA, PHI, WSH, AFC North. Away: NE, NYJ, NYG, DAL, AFC South
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