Football Expectations and Alex Smith - Page 3

keg in kc · 03-23-2013, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by splatbass

So there is no chance that he will be good?

In the scenario that he referenced Smith throws for 3000 yards and we improve by 5 or 6 wins. Does that not qualify as good?

**OnTheWarpath15** · 03-23-2013, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

In the scenario that he referenced Smith throws for 3000 yards and we improve by 5 wins. Does that not qualify as good?

According to most of this place, "good" is wearing red, yellow and an Arrowhead on your helmet.

keg in kc · 03-23-2013, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

According to most of this place, "good" is wearing red, yellow and an Arrowhead on your helmet.

I'm just trying to get a handle on the expectations.

I mean, I thought 3000 yards and improving by 5 or 6 wins would be categorized as good, solid performance, and a reasonable expectation for the guy, based on his career to date. Expecting more than that would I think fall into the "overinflated expectations" category, to borrow the term from the other thread, and wouldn't I think be fair to the guy.

I also thought Fat Elvis' projections were in the same basic neighborhood, albeit a hair more optimistic than mine. (65% completion, 3500 yards, 20 TDs, 7 Ints). He sees more wins (11 versus my 7-8), but that's not as much about Alex Smith on my end as it is about expecting there to be some flux after a complete front office turnover. Philosophically speaking I also wouldn't head into any season expecting 11 wins, much less a year after going 2-14. You're basically asking to be disappointed there. I try to limit my expectations in that sense.

I'm struggling to figure out where I was unfair, or why my scenario was "bad".

splatbass · 03-23-2013, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

In the scenario that he referenced Smith throws for 3000 yards and we improve by 5 or 6 wins. Does that not qualify as good?

It depends. I don't expect them to become a SB contender in the first year after going 2-14, and anyone that does is being very unrealistic. I think 7or 8 wins the first year would be a success. I hope for better, since I think we were a better team than the 2-14 record shows, but I think 7-8 wins is a reasonable expectation.

keg in kc · 03-23-2013, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by splatbass

It depends. I don't expect them to become a SB contender in the first year after going 2-14, and anyone that does is being very unrealistic. I think 7or 8 wins the first year would be a success. I hope for better, since I think we were a better team than the 2-14 record shows, but I think 7-8 wins is a reasonable expectation.

Okay, that makes sense.

BlackHelicopters · 03-23-2013, 03:57 PM

The Jags are closer to a playoff berth with Gabbert than we are with A Smith.

Jerm · 03-23-2013, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by theelusiveeightrop

The Jags are closer to a playoff berth with Gabbert than we are with A Smith.

JFC.

DTLB58 · 03-23-2013, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by theelusiveeightrop

The Jags are closer to a playoff berth with Gabbert than we are with A Smith.

I'm not a huge Alex Smith fan, but I don't believe your statement.

OrtonsPiercedTaint · 03-23-2013, 03:57 PM

His replacement to phase him out quickly. Will be on the roster before the end of his second season here. That should say enough, I think.

Fat Elvis · 03-23-2013, 03:59 PM

I'll take a risk here, and I will be called a "true fan," but I think, depending on the draft and barring injury, we will be:

11-5

Alex has:

65% completion
3500 yards passing
20 TDs
7 Ints

I think Charles will be a big benefactor from the switch to Reid's offense and will have over 2,000 all purpose yards.

I also think with Alex's efficiency (some would say game management) our defense will be vaulted into the top 15 in the league, perhaps top 10.

I believe we will win at least one playoff game.

If Smith is injured, then all bets are off....

Edit: I didn't see Keg's post/prediction when I made this one....

Fat Elvis · 03-23-2013, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Elvis

I'll take a risk here, and I will be called a "true fan," but I think, depending on the draft and barring injury, we will be:

11-5

Alex has:

65% completion
3500 yards passing
20 TDs
7 Ints

I think Charles will be a big benefactor from the switch to Reid's offense and will have over 2,000 all purpose yards.

I also think with Alex's efficiency (some would say game management) our defense will be vaulted into the top 15 in the league, perhaps top 10.

I believe we will win at least one playoff game.

If Smith is injured, then all bets are off....

Edit: I didn't see Keg's post/prediction when I made this one....

I guess we are so far removed from decent QB play for me to realize this, but if you take Alex's average yards/att last year and project it to the average number of times a QB throws the ball under Reid, we would be looking at between a 4,500 and 5,000 yard season....

**Dave Lane** · 03-23-2013, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Elvis

I'll take a risk here, and I will be called a "true fan," but I think, depending on the draft and barring injury, we will be:

11-5

Alex has:

65% completion
3500 yards passing
20 TDs
7 Ints

I think Charles will be a big benefactor from the switch to Reid's offense and will have over 2,000 all purpose yards.

I also think with Alex's efficiency (some would say game management) our defense will be vaulted into the top 15 in the league, perhaps top 10.

I believe we will win at least one playoff game.

If Smith is injured, then all bets are off....

MatriculatingHank · 03-23-2013, 05:03 PM

Direckshun · 03-23-2013, 03:59 PM

I expect a Cassel-esque performance of garbage QB play that will occasionally spike upwards to "pretty good" once Smith ends up on the hotseat.

Those spikes will save his job for about three years.

Eventually, Andy Reid will be sacked, we will have this conversation in four years about how it was damn time given his unwavering support for Smith.

He will then be replaced by somebody like John Harbaugh, who will immediately trade for the best backup in the NFL and sign him to a four year extension. Season ticket sales will skyrocket in year 1 before hitting a new low by year 4.

Four years later, Harbaugh will be axed and we'll all wonder why he never gave the backup QB he traded for any competition.

At that point, Peyton Manning should be flaming out of his first head coaching job. We'll probably hire him up. Mannig will immediately trade for the NFL's best backup QB that year and sign him to a 4-year extension. Season ticket sales will skyrocket in year 1 before hitting a new low by year 4.

Four years later, Manning will be axed and we'll all wonder why he never gave the backup QB he traded for any competition.

He will then be replaced by Dda;lkfj;alkdfalkdjf Wjepofrajf2jojafl who will immediately will trade for the NFL's best backup QB. Season ticket sales will skyrocket in year 1 before hitting a new low in year 4.

Four years later, Dda;lkfj;alkdfalkdjf Wjepofrajf2jojafl will be axed and we'll all wonder why he never gave our QB any real competition.

PRIEST · 03-23-2013, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun

I expect a Cassel-esque performance of garbage QB play that will occasionally spike upwards to "pretty good" once Smith ends up on the hotseat.

Those spikes will save his job for about three years.

Eventually, Andy Reid will be sacked, we will have this conversation in four years about how it was damn time given his unwavering support for Smith.

He will then be replaced by somebody like John Harbaugh, who will immediately trade for the best backup in the NFL and sign him to a four year extension. Season ticket sales will skyrocket in year 1 before hitting a new low by year 4.

Four years later, Harbaugh will be axed and we'll all wonder why he never gave the backup QB he traded for any competition.

At that point, Peyton Manning should be flaming out of his first head coaching job. We'll probably hire him up. Mannig will immediately trade for the NFL's best backup QB that year and sign him to a 4-year extension. Season ticket sales will skyrocket in year 1 before hitting a new low by year 4.

Four years later, Manning will be axed and we'll all wonder why he never gave the backup QB he traded for any competition.

He will then be replaced by Dda;lkfj;alkdfalkdjf Wjepofrajf2jojafl who will immediately will trade for the NFL's best backup QB. Season ticket sales will skyrocket in year 1 before hitting a new low in year 4.

Four years later, Dda;lkfj;alkdfalkdjf Wjepofrajf2jojafl will be axed and we'll all wonder why he never gave our QB any real competition.

Damn sad but true.

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Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $4213447	I expect a Cassel-esque performance of garbage QB play that will occasionally spike upwards to "pretty good" once Smith ends up on the hotseat. Those spikes will save his job for about three years. Eventually, Andy Reid will be sacked, we will have this conversation in four years about how it was damn time given his unwavering support for Smith. He will then be replaced by somebody like John Harbaugh, who will immediately trade for the best backup in the NFL and sign him to a four year extension. Season ticket sales will skyrocket in year 1 before hitting a new low by year 4. Four years later, Harbaugh will be axed and we'll all wonder why he never gave the backup QB he traded for any competition. At that point, Peyton Manning should be flaming out of his first head coaching job. We'll probably hire him up. Mannig will immediately trade for the NFL's best backup QB that year and sign him to a 4-year extension. Season ticket sales will skyrocket in year 1 before hitting a new low by year 4. Four years later, Manning will be axed and we'll all wonder why he never gave the backup QB he traded for any competition. He will then be replaced by Dda;lkfj;alkdfalkdjf Wjepofrajf2jojafl who will immediately will trade for the NFL's best backup QB. Season ticket sales will skyrocket in year 1 before hitting a new low in year 4. Four years later, Dda;lkfj;alkdfalkdjf Wjepofrajf2jojafl will be axed and we'll all wonder why he never gave our QB any real competition.
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