Chiefs Chiefs Are "Begging" To Get Out Of 1st Pick - Page 4

houstonwhodat · 05:02 AM

According to this reporter at SB Nation, the Chiefs are "begging" to get out of the 1st pick in the draft.

April 15th:

"The Kansas City Chiefs earned the top spot in the NFL Draft with their 2-14 record last season, but it seems increasingly likely that they won't be the ones to actually make the first selection: Mike Freeman of CBS writes that the Chiefs are "begging" for the opportunity to move the pick."

"It's no surprise that the Kansas City Chiefs are open to trades for the No. 1 pick. They've already traded for a quarterback in Alex Smith, and the near-consensus best player available, Luke Joeckel, doesn't seem to be inspiring huge amounts of excitement in Kansas City, especially since Branden Albert has been a solid option for them at the position ever since they used their first-round pick on him in 2008. It is a little bit surprising how open they seem to be about it. Andy Reid said the team was open to it all the way back in February, and GM John Dorsey made similar statements a few weeks ago. But that's nothing compared to all the rumors of behind-the-scenes machinations trying to trade the pick. For what it's worth, Dan Kadar of Mocking the Draft said moving the pick was a "dream scenario" when he analyzed the Chiefs' choices in February."

"No team has traded a No. 1 pick since 2004 when the Chargers traded Eli Manning to the Giants, but that was a different scenario, as Manning had publicly stated he wouldn't play for the Chargers. Despite the ultimatum, they were still able to get a good haul for him - the fourth pick in that draft, Phillip Rivers, as well as first and third-round picks in 2005. The Rams were able to get an arm and a leg from the Redskins for the second pick in last year's draft, receiving last year's No. 6 pick and a second-rounder as well as first-round picks in this upcoming draft and in 2014. However, those trades were both for franchise-caliber quarterbacks, something this class has a dearth of."

http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2013/4/1...ing-trade-down

**loochy** · 04-15-2013, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd

You still buying that crap?

What has Abu dantly clear for 30 years, is that the Chiefs will not be picking a QB in the first round, no matter the circumstances.

Who is Abu Dantly? Is that the guy that runs the gas station on the corner?

Sassy Squatch · 04-15-2013, 01:49 PM

**** the lot of you. N and the space button are too damn close on the phone

**ptlyon** · 04-15-2013, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle

**** the lot of you. N and the space button are too damn close on the phone

You should focus in the workplace

Sassy Squatch · 04-15-2013, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by ptlyon

You should focus in the workplace

3rd shift bro.

**Tribal Warfare** · 04-15-2013, 02:13 PM

I could see KC trading down twice with the Eagles and then the Dolphins to recoup picks

**HemiEd** · 04-15-2013, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by loochy

Who is Abu Dantly? Is that the guy that runs the gas station on the corner?

That was my assumption from the poster I quoted, good call.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 04-15-2013, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by L.A. Chieffan

if we want to trade out we'll trade out. or we can take the guy we want. cant be in a better postion than that. plus we got qb locked up and our team is looking pretty good all of the sudden. looking pretty good

The outcome of QB is "uncertain overall" at best. Nothing at this point is truly locked up. But then again, you supported the lamest QB in recent franchise history, so...
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Frazod · 04-15-2013, 02:47 PM

I've said it before, but I think the answer is to draft Geno and then raffle his ass to the top bidder. If there isn't a top bidder, then just keep him.

Both options are better than negotiating from a shit position.

**RealSNR** · 04-15-2013, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle

3rd shift bro.

C'mon man! 3rd shift is when you gotta be at your best! That's where legends and heroes are made!

beach tribe · 04-15-2013, 03:02 PM

I would seriously say **** the value system, and take the best offer I got.
It's a broken system anyway.

Marcellus · 04-15-2013, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR

Because they paid out the ass for a guy nobody really wanted. They got played by teams and were forced to overbid for a shitty QB.

That's just as bad as "overdrafting" Geno at #1. If not worse, because there is INSANE amounts of draft value at that 2nd round pick this year. There's almost nothing at #1 overall.

The fact is that John Dorsey was trying to play Uncle Ron Wolf in these negotiations and wound up doing the exact OPPOSITE of a Ron Wolf strategy.

Nobody wanted Smith but Kolb and Palmer have changed teams as well? Ok.

**RealSNR** · 04-15-2013, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus

Nobody wanted Smith but Kolb and Palmer have changed teams as well? Ok.

Kolb and Palmer are irrelevant. Those teams aren't investing in those guys as long-term solutions in the slightest, and if they are, they're far dumber than a Chiefs fan who wanted Geno over Alex.

ct · 04-15-2013, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Douchemaster General

I've said it before, but I think the answer is to draft Geno and then raffle his ass to the top bidder. If there isn't a top bidder, then just keep him.

Both options are better than negotiating from a shit position.

I gave up on Geno when we coughed up too much for Alex Smith, but am seriously leaning this direction myself lately. Go bold or go home. We've sat on our thumbs for too many seasons now.

Honestly I'm 100% in the move down to recoup 2nd round pick, even if it's much less then the old 'trade chart' value. To a point that is. If Miami calls and offers #12 and #42 that aint nearly enough. Philly with #4 and #35, absolutely. Not really sure where my in between cutoff is before I say F* it and draft Geno, start manning the phones to Jax, Philly, Zona, Oakland, Cleveland, etc, see what shakes out.

Then again, full disclosure, just a few weeks ago I was all on board with Geno #1 as potentially the savior of our franchise QB woes.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 04-15-2013, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus

Nobody wanted Smith but Kolb and Palmer have changed teams as well? Ok.

How many times must this be established? Okay, one more: NOBODY....EXCEPT....FAT BOY...WANTED....ALEX....SMITH. Can you hear me now?
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beach tribe · 04-15-2013, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Dick Willie

How many times must this be established? Okay, one more: NOBODY....EXCEPT....FAT BOY...WANTED....ALEX....SMITH. Can you hear me now?
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You don't know that.

04-15-2013, 12:03 PM
houstonwhodat Banned Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Parallel Universe Casino cash: $10004900	Chiefs Are "Begging" To Get Out Of 1st Pick According to this reporter at SB Nation, the Chiefs are "begging" to get out of the 1st pick in the draft. April 15th: "The Kansas City Chiefs earned the top spot in the NFL Draft with their 2-14 record last season, but it seems increasingly likely that they won't be the ones to actually make the first selection: Mike Freeman of CBS writes that the Chiefs are "begging" for the opportunity to move the pick." "It's no surprise that the Kansas City Chiefs are open to trades for the No. 1 pick. They've already traded for a quarterback in Alex Smith, and the near-consensus best player available, Luke Joeckel, doesn't seem to be inspiring huge amounts of excitement in Kansas City, especially since Branden Albert has been a solid option for them at the position ever since they used their first-round pick on him in 2008. It is a little bit surprising how open they seem to be about it. Andy Reid said the team was open to it all the way back in February, and GM John Dorsey made similar statements a few weeks ago. But that's nothing compared to all the rumors of behind-the-scenes machinations trying to trade the pick. For what it's worth, Dan Kadar of Mocking the Draft said moving the pick was a "dream scenario" when he analyzed the Chiefs' choices in February." "No team has traded a No. 1 pick since 2004 when the Chargers traded Eli Manning to the Giants, but that was a different scenario, as Manning had publicly stated he wouldn't play for the Chargers. Despite the ultimatum, they were still able to get a good haul for him - the fourth pick in that draft, Phillip Rivers, as well as first and third-round picks in 2005. The Rams were able to get an arm and a leg from the Redskins for the second pick in last year's draft, receiving last year's No. 6 pick and a second-rounder as well as first-round picks in this upcoming draft and in 2014. However, those trades were both for franchise-caliber quarterbacks, something this class has a dearth of." http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2013/4/1...ing-trade-down Last edited by houstonwhodat; 04-16-2013 at 05:02 AM..
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