The teacher unions and Al Gore have ruined the public schools

[chiefinbc]

There is nothing more precious than the innocence and hope of a child.

It would be a travesty to continue to hold our next generation hostage to the raw, naked self-interest of the teacher unions and Al Gore.

GO CHIEFS!!

[Luzap]

Pam:

Let me ask this question of you....

Do you know what "perceptual motor skills", & "fine motor skills" are and what your obligations are as a teacher to identify any deficiencies, and to assist in the implementation of programs to asssist in solving those deficiencies?

mmaddog
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12th Man - I agree 100%... If you dont mind, I may use the term 'lockstep' in the future regarding the NEA. It is a perfect word.

[chiefinbc]

KCWolfman:

Have at it!

[Yosef_Malkovitch]

MI, about the class size issue, if large class sizes are a reason that a childern have trouble getting a good education, then how is it that colleges are able to graduate students? Those classes can be very large and there is very little one on one with the profs and the students. Sorry, but that argument doesn't hold water.
Now as to vouchers. I disagree with the whole premiss of the voucher system. We shouldn't have to have special permission to send our kids to what ever school we choose. THIS IS AMERICA, NOT RED CHINA!!!! We are supposed to be free to make our own decisions without interference from big brother! [img]http://www.ChiefsPlanet.com/ubb/mad.gif[/img] The whole idea that government is in charge, and we have to go through them is S T U P I D!!!! It is not what the Founding Fathers had in mind. Now while I disagree with the premiss of the voucher system, I think that it is a step in the right direction. We are trying to give people there right to chose back. Liberals say they are for choice until it comes to something like this. They think the American people are to stupid to know what is best for them in thier own lives. How the hell do they know what is best for me? Are they gods? Do they have a special ability to know what each and every person is thinking, feeling, and going through? NO!!! They are humans just like you and me. The only reason theey sit so high and mighty on thier little thrones of power is because we elected and put them there. They are supposed to answer to us, not vice versa.
VOTE BUSH, AND START RECLAIMING THIS COUNTRY OF OURS!

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THE SILVER AND BLACK AIN'T WORTH JACK!

[chiefinbc]

Raiderhader:

"Vote Bush" and begin reclaiming your country is a great way of putting it.

Fear the government that knows best; don't fear the opportunity that follows empowerment.

That is my thinking at least.

[Yosef_Malkovitch]

Thanks 12th Man. I agree with that statement as well. I am interested in what the liberals/socialist/commies will have to say about us wanting to take thier control of OURSELVES and OUR children.

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THE SILVER AND BLACK AIN'T WORTH JACK!

[Baby Lee]

It's unfortunate that not everyone who disagrees with an opinion doesn't act with the class that Russ does. I applaud you, Wolfman. However, i'll make a couple of brief points, and then i'll leave & enjoy the rest of my birthday:
1) Straight from a private school teacher acquaintence of mine, there are 3 big differences at private schools. Better administrators, the ability to discipline without the threat of a lawsuit, and SMALLER CLASS SIZES!! Now raiderhader, I know you weren't comparing elementary & high school students to college age ADULTS, were you?

[Yosef_Malkovitch]

First of all MI, I am sorry if I didn't show much class, but I get really ticked off whith these liberal/socialist/commies trying to change my country in to something other than what the Founding Fathers intended. If they wan't government to crontol thier lives than they can move to Red China or Cuba. Leave my country alone!!!!!

Now as to age - what does age have to do with it? If you are learning something new that you have never had before then it is just as difficult no matter what the grade. You libs are always talking about how you wan't equality between people, but now thier is unequality between age groups? Libs are the same people who think that children are mature enough to divorce thier parents, but now they aren;t mature enough to learn in school unless teacher is there holding thier hand. What hypocrisy!!!

I hope you have a Happy Birthday (and no, this mean spirited conservative is not being sarcastic.)

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THE SILVER AND BLACK AIN'T WORTH JACK!

Joe - Happy Birthday....<P>

[chiefinbc]

Mi_Chief_Fan:

Happy birthday...

...You did wish for a red and gold pounding tomorrow over the Faiders, right?

[Baby Lee]

12th man,
Let's end this, because I really want to concentrate on the arse kicking the chiefs have for the raiders today. Let me just say, I appreciate your response, Russ & I have debated this topic before, and we simply agree ro disagree. We could probably go on for days. Although I agree with the dems on some issues, I also side with the GOP on a number of them, so I don't consider myself a lib. I think big brother has too much power as well. However, when it comes to this topic, I really think teachers in this country get a bad rap. People say "Why are schools not as good as they were in my day?" A couple of reasons:

1) Violence is much more prevalent. Would you want to teach teens today?
2) Fewer teachers, more students. I know you disagree, but all teachers, in public & private schools, insist smaller classes DO make a difference. Now raiderhader, i'm with you when you talk about the maturity of kids; however, you won't disagree that a large number of students need extra attention, would you? And, yes, maturity does affect how well one can learn, i'm sure even Russ would agree with that, to an extent.

Thanks for the birthday greetings. Went down and wached my WMU broncos kick the S**T out of Jason Whitlock's Ball St. Cardinals, 42-3.
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[Bigfan]

Here's to a Chiefs BIG WIN in Oakland!!!!

I know it is Raider Week, but I have read these posts all week and feel I must add my two cents.

Living in Florida, Jeb Bush has put in place his brother's ideas on educational reform. Let me give a preview of what is in store if GW is in the White House.

We have the APlus plan in effect and here is how it has gone. You design and then give a test that you would fail simply by not letting anyone know what to study prior to taking that test. You would fail because you were not taught what you needed to know to be successful. You say this is pointless? Where as a politician you would be quick to exploit a situation that is so ripe for manipulation.

In doing this you have all the elements necessary to create the appearance of a statewide disaster in education. The test results would show low-performing students statewide and would hold teachers accountable for not teaching. The following year you administer the SAME test and alas show a meteoric rise in student performance. Rewards are abundant and educational reform has arrived.

You give anywhere from $40,000 to $200,000 to schools graded "A" according to test scores. How this money is used to TOTALLY up to the schools. Teachers may opt to take all of the money in bonuses from themselves!! Perfectly within the framework on the plan!

Don't you love it when a good plan comes together, especially in an election year? Political trick or educational reform? You decide. But before you do take time to research what is happening in Florida. Talk with students, parents and educators who fallen victim to this manipulation.

That being said - Kick A$$ Chiefs!!!!!!

[Baby Lee]

Dan,
Didn't the Florida supreme Ct. decide vouchers were unconstitutional? I know Ohio did.

As far as GW's educatioonal brainstorm, boy that sounds scary.