Mellinger: Pioli has time to reflect on where it went wrong

[Chief Henry]

Originally Posted by FAX

Clark neutered him in public just days prior. Eviscerated the stupid bastard. Repeatedly.

FAX

After seeing Arrowhead 60% empty most of the season...if its one thing the Hunt family understands, its $$$.

[InChiefsHeaven]

Originally Posted by Chief Henry

After seeing Arrowhead 60% empty most of the season...if its one thing the Hunt family understands, its $$$.

True, but beyond that, there is legacy. It had to kill Hunt to see that what his dad built had gone completely to shit. Yes, money is a lot, but to a rich successful guy like Clark Hunt, money isn't everything. He's not personally hurting financially that badly over this last season's (and really the last 4 season's) debacle. But to see banners, blackouts, public frustration with his pick of a GM so demonstrably shown...it had to kill the man. His actions over the last 2 weeks solidify that in my mind.

[ChiefMojo]

Just pisses me off!!!!

He came in with such promise but absolutely destroyed the organization very soon after. Sure there were some things he came in and had to clean up on and off the field but there were also big parts of the organization that were working very well (namely relations with the fanbase). He choose to destroy everything... even the stuff he thought was good. There was literally a dark cloud that hung above KC and for sure Arrowhead. The day Pioli was fired, it was like the dark cloud went away, much like in a movie.

In the end the Chiefs franchise turned into the one thing every fanbase hopes they never witness or a part of. I'm sure it is the way the Lions fans felt with Millen in charge. It is the lowest of lows and the only way to fix the mess is to completely clean house and start over... we are doing that right now.

[Munson]

Pretty much everything that Pioli did in 2009 royally ****ed this franchise.

It was only a matter of time before this team imploded.

[Deberg_1990]

I think I can honestly say now that I would have preferred Carl and Herm for 4 more years over the Scott Pioli regime. That's sad.

[Reerun_KC]

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

I think I can honestly say now that I would have preferred Carl and Herm for 4 more years over the Scott Pioli regime. That's sad.

Hopefully we have paid our restitution for hiring Herman. 4 years should be enough. Hopefully the NFL gods will forgive our stupidity.

Hiring Herman is devastating to your franchise.

[|Zach|]

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

Hopefully we have paid our restitution for hiring Herman. 4 years should be enough. Hopefully the NFL gods will forgive our stupidity.

Hiring Herman is devastating to your franchise.

Herm left us with some real good players. Can't say the same for Scott.

[CaliforniaChief]

Originally Posted by |Zach|

Herm left us with some real good players. Can't say the same for Scott.

I will say this for Pioli. He got the Berry pick right, and seems to have found a steal in the third with Houston.

He kept Charles, DJ, Flowers, and Hali around.

Other than that? Abortion.

[DaWolf]

Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief

I will say this for Pioli. He got the Berry pick right, and seems to have found a steal in the third with Houston.

He kept Charles, DJ, Flowers, and Hali around.

Other than that? Abortion.

I'm praying that Poe becomes a player, and Allen and Hudson work out on the line. Other than that, yeah...

[rtmike]

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

I think I can honestly say now that I would have preferred Carl and Herm for 4 more years over the Scott 'Team-killer' Pioli regime. That's sad.

Let's see, 4 years of Herm got us:

2 starting CB's
Pro Bowl, leading '12 AFC rusher
Left tackle of the future
Starting right tackle for another team
Pro Bowl OLB
Pro Bowl ILB
Pro Bowl Punter
Former Pro Bowl WR
2 starting tackles on other teams
A kicker
4 year starter on our D line



TK Peehole's stand outs:

Safety
OLB

[CoMoChief]

Originally Posted by rtmike

Let's see, 4 years of Herm got us:

2 starting CB's
Pro Bowl, leading '12 AFC rusher
Left tackle of the future
Starting right tackle for another team
Pro Bowl OLB
Pro Bowl ILB
Pro Bowl Punter
Former Pro Bowl WR
2 starting tackles on other teams
A kicker
4 year starter on our D line



TK Peehole's stand outs:

Safety
OLB

Probowlers ILB and Punter came from Dick Vermeil

[ChiefMojo]

You know what was the first moment I knew this franchise was f**ked? It was when I saw the banners go down inside the stadium on gameday. The moment I no longer heard much about player charity stuff publicly. When I saw Gonzo wanting out shortly after the hire and the whole Brian Waters ordeal. We should have known right then something horrible was going on and about to happen in a grand scale.

I really hate myself for saying this but I agree with you... I would have taken four more years of Herm over this mess. At least I was entertained in defeat.

[ChiefMojo]

Hiring Herm was devastating but not even close as bad as Pioli imo. Herm had some redeeming qualities, Pioli had none.

[cdcox]

It was time for Herm to go. That was the right decision. Pioli was a reasonable choice for GM. Turned out bad, and we got rid of him at the first reasonable opportunity. Stuff like that happens. It doesn't mean we should have kept Herm. I dare say...

















It's a process.

[trndobrd]

The only thing that might have been better is if Clark had just said "Yeah, we decided to take the charter straight back to Dallas, not KC. Here's a ticket Scott, we'll drop you off at the bus station on our way to the airport."