Help building my first gaming rig

[hometeam]

Originally Posted by jd1020

The EVO WILL do just as good if not better than the H60.

http://www.overclockersclub.com/revi...r212_evo/4.htm

1 degree lower, in half the tests, for nearly double the price. Those closed looped prefilled watercoolers are a rip off. They cost way too damn much for what they offer in cooling.

Save the money.

OCing isn't an exact science. You can build 3 identical computers with identical coolers and not achieve the same OCs. The EVO can get you to a stable 4.4-4.5ghz OC, which is perfectly fine.

I looked the other night at the h60, before I suggested he adopt it over the evo. I found several tests getting 5 degrees better, at lower noise. When I checked the other night, it was the same price as the air cooler.

I will never air cool a CPU ever again. And with the new NZXT closed loop water block, it really has me considering selling my 670 and picking up an r290x to watercool.

edit; after looking again, JD is correct in the fact that the h60 is twice as much. It is the price I thought it was, but the EVO I looked at was 60 dollars as well.

You can always upgrade your cooler later if you are having trouble achieving big overclocks.

[jd1020]

Originally Posted by hometeam

I looked the other night at the h60, before I suggested he adopt it over the evo. I found several tests getting 5 degrees better, at lower noise. When I checked the other night, it was the same price as the air cooler.

I will never air cool a CPU ever again. And with the new NZXT closed loop water block, it really has me considering selling my 670 and picking up an r290x to watercool

Gonna have to provide a link to an H60 that only costs $30 and provide a chart that shows a 5 degree difference. Because I have never seen either.

[hometeam]

Originally Posted by jd1020

Gonna have to provide a link to an H60 that only costs $30 and provide a chart that shows a 5 degree difference. Because I have never seen either.

You where right about price, I was thinking 212 was 60.

Here is something I found in 2 seconds.

Almost every review and forum post I read about the H60 said that the 212 Evo was much better. Surprisingly, I found out that the old H60 (the one with plastic tubing) was much more efficient. I think this has to do with the fact that I have 2x GPU's producing heat in my system. I'm guessing that most of the reviewer's rigs did not have a GPU or even a case.

Before installing the H60, I recorded some temps of my system under load. My room is 21c or around 71f. These were the maximum temps

GPU 0 - 70C

CPU 0 - 78C
CPU 1 - 75C
CPU 2 - 75C
CPU 3 - 70C

My CPU is an Intel i7 3770k overclocked to 4.5 GHz. It also downclocks to 1.9 GHz. In order to install the H60, I had to remove one of the top case fans on the Zalman Z9+ to make the radiator fit on the rear exhaust fan mount. The H60, like the 212, has two fans in push-pull. Also, I only recorded the temps of the #0 GPU. These are the max readings with an H60:

GPU 0 - 66C

CPU 0 - 68C
CPU 1 - 66C
CPU 2 - 68C
CPU 3 - 63C

As you can see, the H60 keeps the maximum temps of both the CPU and GPU much lower than when the Hyper 212 Evo was installed. I hypothesize that this is due to the 212 absorbing some of the heat that the twin GTX 660's were emitting just inches away. I also think that the extra space where the 212 once was allows the air to circulate much better inside the case.

Obviously different setups are going to change variables, such as GPU's, case setup etc.

[jd1020]

Originally Posted by hometeam

You where right about price, I was thinking 212 was 60.

Here is something I found in 2 seconds.



Obviously different setups are going to change variables, such as GPU's, case setup etc.

1 random forum post...

Do more research on the subject. The overwhelming majority you'll read on the subject and charts you'll see is that the H60 is no better than a good air cooler, like the 212 EVO. To believe you'll get a 4-10C difference by getting the H60 is just laughable.

But hey, it's not my money...

Here's a review straight from a newegg post comparing it to a STOCK cooler:

(Stock: ~ 70-72C full load; max out at 74)
(Corsair - 66-69C full load; max out at 72)
(Stock: ~ 29-31 idle)
(Corsair ~ 30-32 idle)

Do I believe that you'll only get 3C better performance compared to a stock cooler? NO!

It's reeruned to think that.

The H60 is an entry level water cooler, doesn't get much lower on the water cooling totem pole, and the 212 EVO is one of, if not the best air cooler you can get.

[jd1020]

Here's another chart.

There is no comparison with the H60 but it has an H80 in the chart and the H80 only gains 3C on the EVO... The only difference between the H80 and H60 is, I believe, that the H80 has a thicker radiator so it will get you just slightly lower temps than a H60.

http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/artic...-Review/1407/6